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drco 12-25-2004 11:12 PM

I have linux
 
after many days and many isos and many cds wasted i finally have fedoracore 3

i still dont think that it configured my video card the right way.....y is tuxracer running so slow??

is there anyway i can check if i have the right video card??

musicman_ace 12-25-2004 11:36 PM

Download the nVidia IA32 drivers and install them. Its a small shell script and really easy.

drco 12-25-2004 11:39 PM

ye ok....you know i am going to need help with that (this is the newbie section)

ok well i got it and its saved on my harddrive now what

Genesee 12-25-2004 11:52 PM

assuming you have a nvidia card, read the README first:

ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Li...629/README.txt

drco 12-26-2004 12:19 AM

for some reason i dont no how to start fedora core 3 without the graphic interface. can some1 help me beacuase I cant find the option at startup

btmiller 12-26-2004 12:28 AM

When you've booted up, open a console, switch to root (enter "su -" and then type your root password) and then type "init 3" -- this will take you to a runlevel where X is not started.

drco 12-26-2004 01:03 AM

well that did not work.

it just went to a black screen that said

started i dont no ok
started i dont no ok
started wine ok

Ygarl 12-26-2004 03:24 AM

Hmmm... every time I try init 3 I get the Blank Screen of Death as well. So - easy peasy: from a shell-

su
<type your root password when it asks...>
nano /etc/inittab

(THis opens 'nano' - a very simple to use text editor. The inittab file you just opened is sort of like the autoexec.bat from windows.
Scroll down a few lines and you see a few lines of text lists numbers 1 to 6 and what each number does. Immediately after you'll see a line with a '5' in the middle. You can see that setting is described above. You need to change that 5 to a 3 and save it. Just use the command to quit and say 'yes' when it asks you to save before quitting)

Reboot and this will take you into the non-graphical Fedora.

When you're done installing, etc just remember to change your /etc/X11R6/xorg.conf like the guide says - just use nano again. It really is a lot better than vi for us newbies!

By the way - if you follow the guides and most information you would ordinarily be fine except that Fedora has that nice graphical loading screen (which is just annoying except the wife likes it). This really narks the system up after you install the drivers and change the xorg.conf file so have a look at this link before you try it:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ht=rhgb+nvidia

Ignore all that stuff about patching the drivers and downgrading. The new ones work fine, though they try to download a kernel interface, then end up compiling thier own. Don't panic - it'll all be fine if you just carry on. Do NOT ignore the bit that goes:

# modprobe nvidia
# cp -a /dev/nvidia* /etc/udev/devices
# chown root.root /etc/udev/devices/nvidia*

Or you'll get locked up halfway through booting and end up reinstalling from scratch or going back to XP like I did...
When you install the driver and want to reboot (the bit above should be the last thing you do really before then) - open your inittab with nano again:
nano /etc/inittab
and change that '3' you put in back to a '5', reboot and if you followed the guides properly you'll be sorted, mate!

If not, come on back...

Good luck!

MasterC 12-26-2004 03:48 AM

Where did the assumption that this is an nvidia card come from?

Just to clarify:
What type of video card do you have? If you don't know, open up a terminal (the black "DOS" screen) and type:
/sbin/lspci
And post that up here.

Cool

musicman_ace 12-26-2004 04:10 AM

that assumption came from me, since we're in the newbie forum, I pray to God he didn't buy an ATI card.

MasterC 12-26-2004 04:11 AM

:D

drco 12-26-2004 12:09 PM

ok it said that tehre was no precompiled kernal interface, and when it seached ther site it couldnt find any..

but here is the pci scan someone wanted b4


nvidia . . . . .. . .NV5M64

southsibling 12-26-2004 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by musicman_ace
that assumption came from me, since we're in the newbie forum, I pray to God he didn't buy an ATI card.
Why?

ssimontis 12-26-2004 07:48 PM

ATI cards suck under Linux because the drivers are really bad. Thats why we pray he doesn't have one. Unfortunately, I have a Radeon 9200, and not enough money to buy something else. nVidia makes better drivers, thats all. However, my card worked under FC2 and FC3. Still, try and avoid ATI.

drco 12-26-2004 07:52 PM

can someone answer my question...I cant install the nvida driver

redjokerx 12-26-2004 08:11 PM

have you done the inittab thing? Chaging it to boot to text? Once you've done that, just run the nvidia shell script and follow the instructions. Later you'll have to edit a config file. The nvidia instructions do a good job at describing what you need to do. Good luck.

MylesCLin 12-26-2004 08:11 PM

Attempt running it again and give us the full output

mrcheeks 12-26-2004 08:45 PM

install kernel source package first(RPM somewhere in system tools or something like that, there is a gui for that )

Logout after booting in the gui
hit ctrl+alt+f4 for example to go to a console.
login as root
kill X : /etc/init.d/gdm stop

cd /downloads/nvidia-driver
chmod +x driver.run
./driver.run

Replace driver.run by the name of the downloaded file. If it is not a .run but a tar.gz, untar(ie unzip the archive : tar zxvf filename)

jens 12-26-2004 08:52 PM

If you've updated udev, it should work without a kernel tree.
If you like to do it the old way, first install the SRPM for your kernel source(see the installation notes).
Since you don't really need it, their's no longer an RPM for this.

As for init 3, just press Ctrl-Alt-F3 again and press Enter(now it will work as before).

drco 12-26-2004 09:15 PM

no that not the case....when i do like sh nv* it starts and everything but then it saids no precompiled kernal interface, and i cant install it

jens 12-27-2004 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drco
no that not the case....when i do like sh nv* it starts and everything but then it saids no precompiled kernal interface, and i cant install it
Well, if you don't believe me and your own Release notes(you didn't read them, did you?), feel free to install the SRPM, it can't harm you either.
You should still update udev tho...(if you don't, none of both ways will work for you).

PS: from the release notes you should have read before posting:

Quote:

An exploded source tree is not required to build kernel modules against the currently in-use kernel.
As for installing the kernel source, again from the release notes:
Quote:

#Obtain the kernel-<version>.src.rpm file from one of the following sources:

*The SRPMS directory on the appropriate "SRPMS" CD iso image
*The FTP site where you got the kernel package
*By running the following command: up2date --get-source kernel


Quote:

Install kernel-<version>.src.rpm (given the default RPM configuration, the files this package contains will be written to /usr/src/redhat/)
Just do a normal "rpm -Uvh xxx.src.rpm"




Quote:

Change directory to /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/, and issue the following command:

rpmbuild -bp --target=<arch> kernel.spec

(Where <arch> is the desired target architecture.)

On a default RPM configuration, the kernel tree will be located in /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/.
They made a small fault here.
In its command, replace "kernel.spec" with kernel-2.6.spec.
(replace <arch> with i686)


Quote:

In resulting tree, the configurations for the specific kernels shipped in Fedora Core 3 are in the /configs/ directory. For example, the i686 SMP configuration file is named /configs/kernel-<version>-i686-smp.config. Issue the following command to place the desired configuration file in the proper place for building:

cp <desired-file> ./.config
not needed for normal i686 systems

Quote:

Issue the following command: make oldconfig
Have fun.

drco 12-29-2004 01:17 AM

ok well i ran the up2date --get-source kernal; and there was none found because i just updated it the other day.....

the usr/scr/redhat doesnt even exist....

so when i instal the nvidia driver this is what it saids...


no precompiled kernal interface was found to match your kernal.....can we intall a kernal interface from the ftp nvida site...YES....no mathc precompileed kernal interface was found on the nvidia ftp site; this means that the installer will need to compile a kernal uinterface for your kernal....OK...error:unable to find the development tool 'cc' in ypur path; please make sure that you have the package 'gcc' installed...If gcc is installed on your system, then please cheack the 'cc' in in your path....ok

Ygarl 12-29-2004 06:01 AM

Hi,

Make sure you have GCC installed on the Add/Remove programs manager - I think it's under under one of the Development sections near the end (either KDE or Gnome I believe). Basically, you can't compile the interface because you don't have a compiler installed to compile with.

That's the problem with some of the defaults that Fedora gives when you install it: some of the options don't install any compilers so you won't ever be able to install anything without Yum or the Add/Remove programs manager.

Hope this helps!

redjokerx 12-29-2004 04:30 PM

Just wondering, do you absolutely need the nvidia drivers? Is your screen not displaying correctly that you can't work with linux? Do you want to play games on linux? Do you plan to use 3D applications like Blender or Maya? If not, maybe you should just try to get comfortable with linux first before attempting something like that. It'd be very nice if you could get it to work, but all this set up stuff might be too much too soon. Just a thought. I remember screwing over many Mandrake installs trying to install the nvidia driver when I first started.

jens 12-29-2004 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drco
ok well i ran the up2date --get-source kernal; and there was none found because i just updated it the other day.....
It's kernel not kernal.
Quote:

Originally posted by drco
the usr/scr/redhat doesnt even exist....
Mine looks like this:
[jens@localhost ~]$ ls /usr/src/redhat/
BUILD RPMS SOURCES SPECS SRPMS

Quote:

Originally posted by drco
no precompiled kernal interface was found to match your kernal.....can we intall a kernal interface from the ftp nvida site...YES....no mathc precompileed kernal interface was found on the nvidia ftp site; this means that the installer will need to compile a kernal uinterface for your kernal....OK...error:unable to find the development tool 'cc' in ypur path; please make sure that you have the package 'gcc' installed...If gcc is installed on your system, then please cheack the 'cc' in in your path....ok
So you don't have a kernel source tree and you don't have a compiler(gcc)...
No problem, you don't really need any of them for just this.

Getting your nvidia driver to work:
Add livna in /etc/yum.conf or replace it with this one:
http://www.fedorafaq.org/samples/yum.conf
(always make a backup of the original one)

Next, type:
Code:

yum install kernel-module-nvidia-`(rpm -q --queryformat="%{version}-%{release}\n" kernel | tail -n 1)`

JaseP 12-30-2004 12:24 AM

Although I am not familiar with fedora core 3, using:

init 3

as root should put you into a command line only environment. The fact that you are getting some form of problem smacks me as a real issue...

Can you use the [ctrl][alt][F2] keys to get a command line login??? Try issuing the init 3 from there as root without logging into a graphical session of a user account.

drco 01-01-2005 02:40 PM

ok so i change my yum config file and i type that stuff in the command. Nvidia was installed and then when i restarted the computer there was a splash screen but then it froze , but there was harddrive activity (from the LED). asfter bout 20 minuties i pressed random buttons and it went back into the black screen. so now i cant go into STARTX

drco 01-02-2005 05:04 PM

PLease help me if someone can. I just want to have my PC back. How do i undo everything


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