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Old 12-08-2005, 11:10 AM   #1
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I am completely new and I cat get fc4 to load


Hello all
I am completely new to Linux, never have even seen linux before. So I went and bought a Sams book on Fedora Core 4 and it came with a dvd version of fc4. I followed the directions in the book except I didn't setup a server I setup a workstation. After the install, I let it decide the partitioning and intalled everything. When it reboots, even after setting the bios to boot from the hardrive it gets to where it says Grub with a flashing curser and nothing else. I can't type anything but I can hit control alt delete to reboot. I do not know enough to really get past this so any help would be very appreciated.

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Old 12-08-2005, 11:33 AM   #2
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Grub is a boot loader, and got installed because the install process detected another operating system on the hard drive.

Do you have another system installed? If yes, and grub got set up properly, you should have some choices displayed, including FC4 and your other operating system.

Just press enter and post back what happens. It should load the 'default' operating system. Most often during the install process you can choose the default system. You can change that after the fact also.
 
Old 12-08-2005, 11:42 AM   #3
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No the drive was reformatted to get rid of windows server 2003 and Grub does not display anything except GRUB _ . Even after hitting enter nothing happens
 
Old 12-08-2005, 01:03 PM   #4
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No the drive was reformatted to get rid of windows server 2003 and Grub does not display anything except GRUB _ . Even after hitting enter nothing happens
What settings did you decide for GRUB? Default or?
 
Old 12-08-2005, 01:03 PM   #5
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I would think you best bet would to re-install. If I were you I would delete any partitions first, and leave just free space on the disk. I have never used FC4, but most modern distros do supply the ability to create partitions and format them during install.

You don't need grub if you do not have more than one system installed. (or don't intend to install more in the future.)
 
Old 12-09-2005, 07:00 AM   #6
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Ok I picked default settings for grub and I have re-installed several times. The problem may be that I don't know what to do when I get the flahing curser. It won't let me type anything so if I do not need grub then how do I start linux.

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Old 12-09-2005, 07:46 AM   #7
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This sounds like FC4 does not like something about your "server". Try a different version of Linux and see if you have the same problem. Your best bet is to download and burn "Ubuntu" Live CD & boot from disk. This will load a live version of Linux and see if there is maybe something not Linux Friendly on your system.

FC3 is still available and very simular so you may want to see if that works on your system.

- Good luck.
 
Old 12-09-2005, 08:45 AM   #8
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You didn't provide any hardware details at all so it is difficult to provide any direct suggestions, however I may have bad news for you. You may be completely hosed and unable to solve this problem.

I recently purchased Linspire to see what the commotion was about and to make a long story short, it simply refused to install or even boot on my PC due to an incompatibility between my BIOS and the version of GRUB that Linspire uses. Booting would get halfway through GRUB, choke, and drop me to a special shell (I forget what it's called), not even the GRUB shell.

If you look on the Linspire forums you will see tons of posts from folks where they simply can't get Linspire to install. There were lots of creative and complex workarounds suggested and not a single one of them worked for me. I burned way too many nights trying 100 different hacks to no avail. The system was an older P733 upon which I have succesfully installed at least 8 other distros without so much as a hiccup.

Linspire installed flawlessly on my newer 3.2GHz machine, so I knew it was not a disc readability problem. I even moved the CDROM drive on the 3.2GHz machine to the P733 machine thinking it might be a CD drive problem and KNOWING there was nothing wrong with that particular disk/reader combo (having just used it to install Linspire to my 3.2GHz machine. Results: nothing. DOA. nada. same problem. I finally found an intelligent post in the Linspire forums stating there were known incompatibilities between Linspire and "certain BIOSes", yet I never found any details.

And of course, nowhere on the Linspire site does it say what BIOSes are and are not supported. I was not happy with support at all. I specifically paid the $100 to have some handholding if needed, and I found myself having to solve my own problems and search through forums like this trying to separate fact from fiction. I could have done (and have been doing) that with a free distro.....

Anyway, back to your problem, this may not be your problem because you got a little farther into the boot process than I, but I just want to suggest that there is a possibility this may also have happened on your machine. Lots of other folks have GRUB problems during install that are easily fixed, but the difference is they are able to enter commands when presented with the GRUB> prompt. You are stating that you are unable to type anything in at all which implies to me that GRUB is completely hosed and effectively locked up.

I recommend you try a different distro as well. I have had different degrees of success with different distros. If you are a total newbie, I recommend you checkout distrowatch.com and become familiar with the top 10 distros listed on the right side (scroll down a bit). With getting into a "what distro is best" flame war, I suggest PCLinux, Ubuntu, Mepis, or Beatrix as newbie-friendly distros to check out. Knoppix is also a recognized one-man army because of all the utilities it includes and its mastery at auto-hardware detec, so this should be in your arsenal anyway. Simply download the ISO and burn to CD using a Windows machine, then install into your Linux target machine. See if you have luck getting farther into the boot process. It may be the BIOS incompatibility problem I described, or a bad CD. It could also be that particular CDROM drive does not like that particular CD. You could try a drive swap like I did. You could also try running the Fedora CD on another PC. You should be able to start it up, get well into the install process and then abort without actually doing anything to your hard drive.

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Old 12-10-2005, 06:24 AM   #9
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Hello all
I would like to thank everyone who answered. I really appreciate you taking the time. Now I guess all I have to do is decide what distro to use because fc4 won't work on my machine. Again Thank you
 
  


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