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HP 17-x170ng slow bootup

I recently bought a new laptop. Thing is it boots up slower than old and has some delays even when I'm only using terminal etc..
I think It could be in the BIOS but it has no ADVANCED option :newbie:
http://i64.tinypic.com/rtf29i.jpg
https://streamable.com/s/vcb7t/cupbdp
Help needed :)

i don't know what you linked there, i cannot see it.

please tell us more about this machine - specs.
is it slow only during boot?
what are you comparing with (hardware, distro)?
did you already install or is it still in live mode?

also post output from:

Code:

uname -rv

lspci -k

@ondoho, turn noscript off .... ;) - at least you can see the (first) image.
@Rogi_n, we need more info - what distro, what messages ...

When you compare the new lappy and the old one, is it with the same operating system? How long of a boot are we talking about? Is it scrolling the whole time, or does it stop and wait?

If your System starts with systemd try the commands shown here:

https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/systemd/systemd-analyze/

I found particularly helpful "sudo systemd-analyze plot" and "sudo systemd-analyze blame", the latter spelling out the exact time used for starting the Services.

Rogi_n,

Welcome to LQ.

Which Linux distro are you using?
Your HP laptop with 8GB of RAM and an Intel i5-7200U CPU should be no slouch, regardless of distro.

There is no Advanced option in the BIOS of recent HP laptops. I have a similar InsydeH20 BIOS to your one.

@JZL240I-U,

Thanks for the link about systemd.
Unfortunately the only German I use is, “Noch ein bier bitte” and “Ein fassbier bitte”.

For others with limited German, try this Ubuntu page:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/...analyze.1.html

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1009...-blame-results

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachboy2 (Post 5831304)

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@JZL240I-U,

Thanks for the link about systemd.
Unfortunately the only German I use is, “Noch ein bier bitte” and “Ein fassbier bitte”.

Dear me, you must be thirsty, ordering an entire keg of beer :D. Though I have known situations like that...

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachboy2 (Post 5831304)

For others with limited German, try this Ubuntu page:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/...analyze.1.html

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1009...-blame-results

Sorry, switching between languages all day I overlooked that when I posted the link :(.

JZL240I-U,

Maybe it was "ein bier vom fass".

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachboy2 (Post 5831307)

JZL240I-U,

Maybe it was "ein bier vom fass".

As a rule you would get that anyhow in Germany, you'd need to stress it only when you want to make that really clear.

Ahh, but tonight I will have some bottles with my son :).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 5831154)

Code:

uname -rv

lspci -k

Code:

[root@Host risto]# uname -rv

4.15.6-300.fc27.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 26 18:43:03 UTC 2018

[root@Host risto]# lspci -k

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 02)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

libkmod: kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'option'

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 (rev 02)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: i915

        Kernel modules: i915

00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Thermal Subsystem (rev 02)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: proc_thermal

        Kernel modules: processor_thermal_device

00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd

00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: intel_pch_thermal

        Kernel modules: intel_pch_thermal

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: mei_me

        Kernel modules: mei_me

00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: ahci

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev f1)

        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)

        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev f1)

        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP LPC Controller (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: intel_pmc_core

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

        Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl

00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus

        Kernel modules: i2c_i801

01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265 / M340/M360 / M440/M445] (rev 83)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: amdgpu

        Kernel modules: amdgpu

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 07)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: r8169

        Kernel modules: r8169

03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 81c1

        Kernel driver in use: rtl8723be

        Kernel modules: rtl8723be

[root@Host risto]#

Uploaded the video to youtube so you can see it :)
YouTube Link
The older laptop has i3 4GB ram | New (bigger in video) HP laptop has i5 with 8GB ram with better graphics card - Both running fresh installs of fedora.

Code:

[root@Host risto]# uname -rv

4.15.6-300.fc27.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 26 18:43:03 UTC 2018

[root@Host risto]# lspci -k

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 02)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

libkmod: kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'option'

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 (rev 02)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: i915

        Kernel modules: i915

00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Thermal Subsystem (rev 02)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: proc_thermal

        Kernel modules: processor_thermal_device

00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd

00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: intel_pch_thermal

        Kernel modules: intel_pch_thermal

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: mei_me

        Kernel modules: mei_me

00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: ahci

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #1 (rev f1)

        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)

        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev f1)

        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

        Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP LPC Controller (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: intel_pmc_core

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

        Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl

00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus

        Kernel modules: i2c_i801

01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265 / M340/M360 / M440/M445] (rev 83)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: amdgpu

        Kernel modules: amdgpu

02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 07)

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 828b

        Kernel driver in use: r8169

        Kernel modules: r8169

03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter

        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 81c1

        Kernel driver in use: rtl8723be

        Kernel modules: rtl8723be

[root@Host risto]#

Old DELL laptop has i3 4GM ram | New HP laptop has i5 8GB ram
Both fresh installs of Fedora
Uploaded a video to YouTube - LINK

Quote:

Originally Posted by JZL240I-U (Post 5831272)

Code:

sudo systemd-analyze blame

        28.853s systemd-journal-flush.service

        25.738s plymouth-quit-wait.service

        19.593s udisks2.service

        12.614s dkms.service

        12.581s dracut-initqueue.service

        10.794s NetworkManager.service

        10.595s sssd.service

          9.818s firewalld.service

          9.516s NetworkManager-wait-online.service

          8.762s libvirtd.service

          8.080s vboxdrv.service

          7.554s lvm2-monitor.service

          6.553s dev-mapper-fedora_host\x2droot.device

          6.534s systemd-udev-settle.service

          4.679s initrd-switch-root.service

          3.492s polkit.service

          3.439s systemd-rfkill.service

          2.580s abrtd.service

          2.134s wpa_supplicant.service

          2.052s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service

          1.746s ModemManager.service

          1.657s dnf-makecache.service

          1.548s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service

Looks quite different from my results. Okay, please use "sudo systemd-analyze plot > boot.svg" (or any file name you like). Display the result in any suitable program (I used Gwenview). You'll get a plot with lots of pinkish columns (or lines). Look for the long deep-red ones and their labels -- they are the culprits. I disabled two services and accelerated boot time from > 40 seconds to less than 10 seconds...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogi_n (Post 5831615)

Code:

sudo systemd-analyze blame

        28.853s systemd-journal-flush.service

        25.738s plymouth-quit-wait.service

        19.593s udisks2.service

        12.614s dkms.service

        12.581s dracut-initqueue.service

        10.794s NetworkManager.service

        10.595s sssd.service

          9.818s firewalld.service

          9.516s NetworkManager-wait-online.service

          8.762s libvirtd.service

          8.080s vboxdrv.service

          7.554s lvm2-monitor.service

          6.553s dev-mapper-fedora_host\x2droot.device

          6.534s systemd-udev-settle.service

          4.679s initrd-switch-root.service

          3.492s polkit.service

          3.439s systemd-rfkill.service

          2.580s abrtd.service

          2.134s wpa_supplicant.service

          2.052s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service

          1.746s ModemManager.service

          1.657s dnf-makecache.service

          1.548s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service

something surely is wrong there.
i'm not using fedora, but i really wonder why it would take systemd 28s to flush the journal? it takes 1.9s on my - much weaker - system.
you need to investigate those services one by one.
they are ordered by how long they take (not by order of appearance), and that's the order i would investigate in.

In the OP's video, obviously the system is waiting for long periods. Yes, it extends the boot time. But it really isn't fair to include the waits as part of the boot time, because you can get rid of them.