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IronMaiden 12-05-2003 06:25 PM

How to run messenger on linux
 
I tried AIM, which is the only program that it came with Mandrake Linux 9.2 as an instant messasing.

I tried to log on unto my messenger account and I couldn't do that.

I am new in Linux. Below I show the process.

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JayCnrs 12-05-2003 06:48 PM

Are you just using MSN if so give AMSN a shot, you untar the file in your home directory then cd msn ---> amsn

Works no problem.

AMSN :)

The Person 12-05-2003 06:49 PM

you need to get the lastest verison of gaim for it to work. The one that is built in doesn't work very well

GT_Onizuka 12-05-2003 08:10 PM

Man have people forgotten how to Search the forums or Google or go to the source (the developer that is) and look at FAQs and stuff? What you need is SSL, that can be provided my GnuTLS or a combination of Mozilla NSS & NSPR. Go to http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php and learn more about it. But you do need a current version of Gaim (I believe the cutoff is .71 or .72) since M$ recently changed the way to access the network or something.

IronMaiden 12-05-2003 08:16 PM

I tried the search in the forum but couldn't find it. And when I search on the internet it always shows something else.

I tried downloading the latest GAIM version which is .74 and it didnt work.

Reason:

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GT_Onizuka 12-05-2003 09:28 PM

Okay first off, the reason it didn't compile is because you are missing libao (as it said). But the reason why MSN isn't connecting is because you don't have SSL installed. Did you bother to look at the FAQ on Gaim's website? When you searched for your problem on the board, did you search for gaim msn not connecting? If you did I can assure you would get lots of threads, all with people who don't seem to know that Gaim has a webpage. That is why man created FAQ's to be looked at. So I would recommend installing SSL by the step-by-step instructions that can be found on Gaim's website OR searching on the forum for the problem OR trying a different protocol (they will work, trust me) and when you have finished installing SSL recompile your current version. If its 0.71 or above, MSN will work without a hitch. Once again, your problem is you don't have SSL compiled on your system. Go to Gaim's FAQ page and there will be a Question similar to yours, in fact, here is said link.

IronMaiden 12-06-2003 02:44 AM

Why is all this so complicated?? To many files to download for just one aplication, it doesnt make much sense. It should be all in one package.... oh man :o

linux is linux hehe

I looked on the FAQS before but I don't have much time to spend to just make the freaking program to work! There is a real lack of information and organization here. You ask one question and you find like a million ways to do it.

I need at least a week to figure this out by myself then..

Thanks anyway...

GT_Onizuka 12-06-2003 09:44 AM

I hardly consider there to be a lack of information or organization. I can understand how you are distraught from the fact that you need to install lots of additional software to get something to work. But all the documentation is right there. The have a walkthough on everything you need to download, with links, and step-by-step instructions to get SSL working on your system so MSN can work. I honestly cannot see how this is a so called lack of documentation or structure.

IronMaiden 12-06-2003 11:43 AM

I got frustated with GAIM and now I am trying aMSN but still frustated. Now with aMSN i need the tcl/tk whatever.

I unpacked those programs and I can't figure out how to run them.

I read the readme files but like always I get error messages (this reminds me of windows).

I went to the console and I type "./configure" in the unix folder of both programs and it worked. But when I type "make" like it says on the readme file it shows:
"make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop."

When I type "make install" like it says on the manual it shows:
"make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop."

The manual says: "If the make fails then you'll have to personalize the Makefile
for your site or possibly modify the distribution in other ways." I wonder what does that mean.

Don't tell me that I have to download another program :eek: :cry:

GT_Onizuka 12-06-2003 12:56 PM

The problem is ./configure wasn't successful otherwise a Makefile would have been created. Look over the output of ./configure and I'm sure you'll find it complaining about the inexsistance of some app here or some lib there.

h/w 12-06-2003 04:14 PM

And now it is time you installed and figured out how to use Urpmi (apt-clone for mandrake?)
The days when people fought over dependencies are long gone - and you should be using this too.

GT_Onizuka 12-06-2003 05:25 PM

The problem is, SSL isn't required for Gaim to run, just MSN, so it won't download the SSL libs it needs (I think, I'm not positive, but I don't think it will). So I doubt doing that will help. It's really not that hard just follow the directions. Linux isn't always going to hold your hand, programs get a lot harder to install than Gaim, just be thankful you have easily recognizable hardware otherwise, you'd be in a lot more trouble.

Inuyasha-kun 12-07-2003 01:58 AM

This is what I get when I try to run install AMSN:
[root@localhost root]# cd '/usr/local/msn'
[root@localhost msn]# make config
make: *** No rule to make target `config'. Stop.
[root@localhost msn]# make
echo "LIB /usr/share/amsn DATA /usr/share/pixmaps BIN /usr/bin"
LIB /usr/share/amsn DATA /usr/share/pixmaps BIN /usr/bin
mkdir -p /usr/share/amsn
mkdir -p /usr/share/pixmaps
mkdir -p /etc/X11/applnk/Internet
mkdir -p /usr/bin
cat /dev/null > .uninstall.sh
ls: i: No such file or directory
ls: s: No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `i/messenger.png': No such file or directory

What's with the stupid .PNG? It's just a picture, it has no real value.
This is what I get when I try to run it:
[root@localhost msn]#[root@localhost msn]# ./amsn
/usr/bin/env: wish: No such file or directory

I even have the newest release of TCL/TK. Does anyone have any help?

IronMaiden 12-07-2003 03:01 AM

You are righ the configure shows an error.

./configure
creating cache ./config.cache
checking whether to use symlinks for manpages... no
checking compression for manpages... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH

What should I do?

GT_Onizuka 12-07-2003 12:18 PM

IronMaiden apparently you don't have GCC or CC which is the compiler for *nix. Ummm, EVERY distribution on the face of the Earth has this program as it is needed to compile... everything. Without it you can't get any more software unless it comes in binary form. First off, what distribution are you using and why don't you have GCC? It is a very important piece of software so I would recommend putting your install CD in and try and install all the GCC related programs in there, otherwise you will never be able to compile stuff from source (that is unless you have another compiler, which I would find odd but ./configure would have found the other one so I assume you just don't have it. Inuyasha-kun, why didn't you run ./configure?

IronMaiden 12-07-2003 12:59 PM

I have mandrake 9.2.

I am gonna check the cd

Inuyasha-kun 12-07-2003 02:55 PM

Could someone figure out the answer to my problem?

GT_Onizuka 12-07-2003 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GT_Onizuka
Inuyasha-kun, why didn't you run ./configure?
Like I said, did you run ./configure? From your directions you ran make config, which did nothing, and without running ./configure, the Makefiles weren't made. Did you read the documentation that comes with it? I'm assuming not because I assume the instructions are a simple ./configure && make && make install (as root). Seriously guys, all of these problems could have been solved provided you just looked at the included documentation, if you are going to use Linux, make an effort to look at the README's and INSTALL files that almost everything comes with. If that fails, search the forums or search google, most of my problems have been solved that way, but when you come onto a very difficult problem, then post on the forums. We don't need common questions cluttering the boards. Please, try running ./configure, like this

$ cd name_of_directory_that_you_are_trying_to_install
$ ./configure

This will probably be what you need to do, then do make, and then make install (as root). This is ALL (I can promise you) in the documentation provided with the file. If you come across a problem then, and only then, post back.

Longinus 12-07-2003 07:57 PM

<b>hey iron maiden</b>

go here http://amsn.sourceforge.net/

and download AMSN
they have all the instructions you need on the site too

but basically all ya have to do is double click the dealy to unpack it, open up a terminal and <b>cd</b> (change the directory) to wherever the amsn folder is and type "./amsn"

Longinus 12-07-2003 07:59 PM

-.- .... html is disabled... ignore all the <b>'s and </b>'s

Inuyasha-kun 12-07-2003 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GT_Onizuka
Like I said, did you run ./configure? From your directions you ran make config, which did nothing, and without running ./configure, the Makefiles weren't made. Did you read the documentation that comes with it? I'm assuming not because I assume the instructions are a simple ./configure && make && make install (as root). Seriously guys, all of these problems could have been solved provided you just looked at the included documentation, if you are going to use Linux, make an effort to look at the README's and INSTALL files that almost everything comes with. If that fails, search the forums or search google, most of my problems have been solved that way, but when you come onto a very difficult problem, then post on the forums. We don't need common questions cluttering the boards. Please, try running ./configure, like this

$ cd name_of_directory_that_you_are_trying_to_install
$ ./configure

This will probably be what you need to do, then do make, and then make install (as root). This is ALL (I can promise you) in the documentation provided with the file. If you come across a problem then, and only then, post back.

[root@localhost msn]# ./configure
bash: ./configure: No such file or directory

No help you are.

IronMaiden 12-07-2003 08:53 PM

Longinus, apparently you didn't read the post before you reply to it.

I went to my Mandrake Cds and I tried to install the GCC stuff and then it says that I have to put the Cd #1 in the cd drive, then the cd drive comes out and when I tried to get the cd#3 out the piece of crap closed in with no reason.

I inserted the cd#1 and then it showed that the file is missing.
What should I do? I downloaded the files from the Australian server. Aparently it didn't work. I should have do the MD5SUM thing, but I didn't nothing about that before I burned the cds.

This whole thing really sucks. My linux for some reason doesn't have sound either. Everytime I start Mandrake the program Totem shows an error and it would stick in the task bar forever. I am starting to miss Windows XP :(

GT_Onizuka 12-07-2003 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Inuyasha-kun
[root@localhost msn]# ./configure
bash: ./configure: No such file or directory

No help you are.

Wow, what an ungrateful person you are. Did you even bother to read my post? I said "Did you read the documentation that comes with it?" I only gave you instructions for how most programs are installed from source. But beings as you have some sort of problem with reading, not only the documentation, but my posts as well, I'm going to have to bid you a good day sir. If you aren't willing to try to learn, I'm not going to help you. Seriously, give me a break, and if anyone reads this and thinks I'm being a little angry, read the entire thread. This guy is ridiculous. You can't expect people to hold your hand the entire time. I gave you instructions for how to install from source (for most programs) although you should ALWAYS (and I always read the readme and the install files) read the included documentation. If all you do is type in some random commands and then complain on a message board that it isn't working you aren't going to get anything done. I pointed you in the right direction (a la documentation) and it's your decision whether you choose to actually try or just quit. Like I said, I'm done and I hope you don't fill the board with more of this "I'm too lazy to read the documentation"-esque posts. RTFM.

GT_Onizuka 12-07-2003 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronMaiden
Longinus, apparently you didn't read the post before you reply to it.

I went to my Mandrake Cds and I tried to install the GCC stuff and then it says that I have to put the Cd #1 in the cd drive, then the cd drive comes out and when I tried to get the cd#3 out the piece of crap closed in with no reason.

I inserted the cd#1 and then it showed that the file is missing.
What should I do? I downloaded the files from the Australian server. Aparently it didn't work. I should have do the MD5SUM thing, but I didn't nothing about that before I burned the cds.

This whole thing really sucks. My linux for some reason doesn't have sound either. Everytime I start Mandrake the program Totem shows an error and it would stick in the task bar forever. I am starting to miss Windows XP :(

Hm, thats really odd that it says the file is missing. My recommendations are as follows:
1.) Try and download the GCC packages from this site. I would recommend downloading all the files that start with GCC and install those. It should work, then try and compile what you were trying to in the first place.
2.) Try and download at least Disc 1 of the Mandrake install (the version you are using) and try and install GCC and everything else. (Although if your system was missing GCC in the first place, you might want to think about reinstalling everything. I'm just afraid that there are some other programs that weren't included that could cause some problems later on, better to reinstall earlier than later.)
3.) Switch distros. Although Mandrake is one of the most user-friendly distros, maybe something else would be more suitable to your tastes. I use Slackware, but it doesn't hold your hand. Ever.
4.) Go to GCC's homepage (here) and see if you can find any documentation that can help you out although one of these should work.

JK_Aslan 12-08-2003 12:17 AM

cant get it either
 
ok this is probably my bad attempt at loading stuff but i loaded amsn and tcl/tk or whatever it is and the tcl thing didnt load propally because the wish command doesnt work.

MasterC 12-08-2003 12:23 AM

Attention Everyone:
Please, if you have something constructive to say, feel free to post up. However, as most of use have surely heard once or twice, "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all." It's in the rules and it's just common curteousy.

There is no need to be having any sort of a personal 'hitch' beyond this, so please feel free to drop it, and move on with other questions or resume helping/recieving help.

Thank You.

GT_Onizuka 12-08-2003 12:25 AM

I'm not too sure what you mean by 'loaded'. If you could elaborate on your process, (ie exactly what you inputted at the console). I may be able to help you, although, I need to get some sleep o.O

JK_Aslan 12-08-2003 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GT_Onizuka
I'm not too sure what you mean by 'loaded'. If you could elaborate on your process, (ie exactly what you inputted at the console). I may be able to help you, although, I need to get some sleep o.O


i have to go to ill come back and leave a post when i have time (probably tomorrow)

thanx

Inuyasha-kun 12-08-2003 12:58 AM

Re: cant get it either
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GT_Onizuka
Wow, what an ungrateful person you are. Did you even bother to read my post? I said "Did you read the documentation that comes with it?" I only gave you instructions for how most programs are installed from source. But beings as you have some sort of problem with reading, not only the documentation, but my posts as well, I'm going to have to bid you a good day sir. If you aren't willing to try to learn, I'm not going to help you. Seriously, give me a break, and if anyone reads this and thinks I'm being a little angry, read the entire thread. This guy is ridiculous. You can't expect people to hold your hand the entire time. I gave you instructions for how to install from source (for most programs) although you should ALWAYS (and I always read the readme and the install files) read the included documentation. If all you do is type in some random commands and then complain on a message board that it isn't working you aren't going to get anything done. I pointed you in the right direction (a la documentation) and it's your decision whether you choose to actually try or just quit. Like I said, I'm done and I hope you don't fill the board with more of this "I'm too lazy to read the documentation"-esque posts. RTFM.
Sorry for being so mean. I get very frusteratfd when thimgs drn't work. I think I just need help installing TCL/TK

Quote:

Originally posted by JK_Aslan
ok this is probably my bad attempt at loading stuff but i loaded amsn and tcl/tk or whatever it is and the tcl thing didnt load propally because the wish command doesnt work.
I have the same problem. It may be a good idea if someone could post the exact instructions from download to run for AMSN and TCL/TK.

Longinus 12-08-2003 07:00 PM

oh pft sorry guys i didnt read the whole post carefully

heh heh ^_^;


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