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Old 03-19-2011, 06:56 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by makuab View Post
I am unable to start any application besides Xterminal, ideas why?
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Also, how can I get more themes into it? I know WHERE to get them, just not how to install them or w/e. I figured once I can start Firefox in E17 ill be able to get them.
Could you show me the place where you found them? I can take a look and see if I can figure it out.
Old 03-19-2011, 07:37 PM   #17
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Many Linux users (including me) eventually want to tinker with a more customizable OS, and I think this is what the OP wants (he said he switched from Ubuntu).
If that's the case, I think it could still be interesting to reconsider the distro to something like a initial minimal debian install or even ubuntu (and I think it used to be possible to start with a minimal, X-less install on ubuntu, I'm not sure if it's still true though).

Not to put Arch down as "too hard"/"it sucks", or the original poster as "too n00b", but Debian would be a bit easier and more familiar, coming from ubuntu. I'm an "experienced newbie" myself, and while I thought that Arch was surprisingly easy for all the scary stuff I had heard about it, I had some troubles of my own trying to make it work exactly like I had Debian working (not that it's impossible, some things are just different to set up). But I don't remember having this sort of issue, if I recall, installing a GUI was quite straight-forward, and very debian-like, "pacman -whatever openbox", and I think that's a signal that an easier distro might be advisable. Again, I'm not bragging nor trying to put the original poster down -- my "blog" is a coping tool for my own chronic newbieness. My intention is just to point to a direction of what could be less frustrating, having an OS that "just works" and that still allows for a lot of customization.

However, if the idea is to chose a more demanding distro in order to be "forced" to learn, then that may be a good strategy. But it isn't that much needed for a good deal of customization. In fact, I have no idea of what sort of customization you couldn't achive on "any" distribution. Perhaps things changed in the last few years, but I thought it used to be more a matter firstly of the packages available/set up skills/ease, secondly scripting skills, and thirdly, actual programming skills. Not that one distro was fundamentally more constrained or freer than any other, like "you can't get this GUI/cool thing to work on Itsux, you need Awesomenix or Coolnix if you want it."

Just one thing, in case the original poster eventually decides to give up Arch for a while and try Debian, just try to remember, when asking for some help on forums, to not ever say something like "why isn't that just like it used to be on ubuntu? I think debian should copy ubuntu on this and that regard"...


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