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Old 04-24-2011, 02:56 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by patrick_the_fat View Post
I am trying to make a point: do your best to try not to disprove somebody's needs, because somebody else might come along with the same issue. It happens to me again and again in all of the Linux forums. NTFS is supported in Linux and the use of NTFS partitions implies there is a possibility of fragmentation, so developing a defragmentation tool for use in Linux would be a legitimate idea and also not a bad one.
There is only one case for using NTFS with Linux. If you want to share data with a Windows machine/installation. In this case there is a working Windows present which can easily defragment the NTFS file-system. But it makes not really sense to use NTFS if you don't use Windows, it lacks Unix/Linux file permissions and so on. I personally would copy your data over and get rid of that file-system.
By the way, because of the closed specifications for NTFS it literally took years til open source developers could come up with a working write support for it. I doubt that someone ever will put effort in writing defragmentation support for this file-system .
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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs View Post
Defragmentation is not a "routine procedure" anymore ... not even for Windows boxes. For one thing, drives are huge, so a contiguous block of space is always easy to come by. Filesystems have improved too. Current Linux (and Windows) filesystems are designed for years of continuous service.
Actually, Windows 7 schedules a defrag once a week by default.
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I would hate to defrag 3tb drives, and have to do it to 3 3tb drives 0_0
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No matter the size, even linux drives could use a defrag if used in production. Tar off to tape and copy back was the standard way. It is perfect and has worked for decades.
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Modern file systems don't get very fragmented. My Windows machine has never gotten more than a couple percent fragmented, even with heavy use. Windows 7 is largely self-maintaining. Linux ext systems don't really get fragmented in normal use, at least I've never seen it. It's not something I would lose any sleep over.
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Angry What the OP *nEEds*

This is a reply to an old thread because the OP has old equipment and old operating system which these new-fangled Whipper-snappers obviously aren't able to comprehend... and therefore just keep talking about what they need and not what the OP needs and simply don't have the ability to sympathize with the OP.

I assume you don't have the 30 terabyte HD that they are talking about and/or for some reason that nobody needs to know, you want to preserve your present OS or file system environment... Why you need what you are asking for isn't the issue... and isn't my business...
I worked for a company in 2009 that was running some equipment off of a DOS 6.1 environment with windows 98. This was running software that was closed source and that software designed closed source machine code to drive a $38,000 CNC machine that the shop wasn't ready to replace so .. we had to keep that old DOS system running.
(I'm sure more examples could be sited)

Why you need this is nobody's nosy business and I have to agree with Patrick...
Not one person has answered your question here...


(they probably don't know the answer)

You could try shake.

Honestly, though you might not want to do what you are trying to do. If you have a Windows partition then you probably have a working windows system, you want to let windows do the defrag for you.
If you have an NTFS with data on it and it's not a windows system .. then why? This is the part I don't understand, not that there aren't valid reasons, of course. Is it so that a windows system can access it? Then use windows to defrag it. Otherwise you might want to think about updating to an ext3 or ext4 file system.

(or better an array of 3TB drives with ZFS )

Whatever it is you are up to I wish you success!




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