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Old 11-26-2003, 06:14 PM   #1
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How selective is your memory?


Im not shure if it is such a good idea to come up with a topic like this.

This may seem like a silly question but I would really like to ask
Linux experts how selective is their memory.

There are million of things to be memorised about Linux,especially
if your goal is also to learn to program in Linux(like mine is).

So do you memorise every bit of detail of how,for example,some service
is started,what files it looks for...?Or do yoou have only a general idea
of how something works and when in need,you learn details,and when done with a job,YOU AGAIN FORGET THOSE LITTLE DETAILS?

Same with TAR tool.Do you know most of its options or you look them up
when needed?

I hope someone will give a serious answer to a serious question

thank you
Old 11-26-2003, 06:23 PM   #2
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I use a text file with stuff I need to remember.

My Chem prof told me, "It isn't remembering lots of stuff that's the key. You have to remember where to find the information you need and know what to do with it when you find the information."

I have a perfect memory. I forget everything!

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Old 11-26-2003, 06:32 PM   #3
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Originally posted by fancypiper
I have a perfect memory. I forget everything!
*lol* Mine's not quite perfect, but close.

I use 'man' religiously. Stuff sometimes seeps in and I *try* to remember to write stuff in text files so I can refer back to it. It is amazing how much ends up just *sticking* but it's probably dwarfed by how much I immediately forget. Things that are very repetitive, like 'tar xzf' or easy variations like 'j' for 'z' or 'c' for 'x' sometimes stick - but anything *at all* out of the way and it's 'man tar'. Hell, I have a hard time remembering my passwords.

-- Crap. I just realized you said 'linux experts'. Oops. Well, there's a non-expert viewpoint, anyway.

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Old 11-26-2003, 06:49 PM   #4
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Not to contradict you guys but if I was to look at your previous post where
you helped people(all 1000 of them),my head would start spinning.

At least you give the impression like you have all the little details about
Linux stored in the front of your mind

Originally posted by digiot

-- Crap. I just realized you said 'linux experts'. Oops. Well, there's a non-expert viewpoint, anyway.

lol,you probably are an expert compared to me.I've been using Linux for about a week now

Old 11-27-2003, 10:51 AM   #5
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Buy a manual that suits your needs, or download and print one. I'm working my way thru Rute. Get some of the 2" square Post-It Notes <registered trademark 3M Corporation>. (Do not steal them from work; you already used the company T1 to download your distro and burned it to CD's from the supply closet. ;-} ) As you come across references in the manual, write a short description across one edge of the note. Use the rest of it to write any other 'memory joggers'. Stick it in the manual with the short descrition sticking out. This works best if you write the short desc. on the opposite edge of the note from the adhesive edge.

I'm a newbie, but the U.S. Army preaches the same approach as FP's teacher. You don't have to know it, just know where to find it quickly. I've got to figure out how to print the man pages.
Old 11-27-2003, 03:36 PM   #6
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Definitely not an expert, but here's my 2-penn'orth:

Some stuff just sticks and I can recite it (even understand some of it!), other stuff I have to search for - I use the man pages or hit the web. Wierdly enough, there are some commands I don't know that I know, they appear to be jammed into my subconscious and when I need them I can type them. Very strange.

Mostly though, I just search here - most of the problems I encounter have been covered here.

A big 'Woo-Yay' to LQ.
Old 11-27-2003, 03:52 PM   #7
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i start text files with commands and fixes i've had to figure out, then i forget about adding to them for a while, making them only slightly useful.

Originally posted by Charlie Spencer
Get some of the 2" square Post-It Notes <registered trademark 3M Corporation>. (Do not steal them from work; you already used the company T1 to download your distro and burned it to CD's from the supply closet. ;-} )
get this program immediately:

sticky notes for your desktop. they're indispensible!
Old 11-27-2003, 05:09 PM   #8
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I've got a wonderful alphabetical desktop book and a cheap biro - I write everything down. I take the book everywhere I might meet a computer. Usually, what I need is not in my book. Anybody watching seems impressed when I get the book out though.
"What a book," they shout, " It looks like it has everything in it."
"It sure has," I smile. I leaf throught the pages and then scratch my chin.
"Aha!" I whisper, "That's it!"
And then I Google.
Old 11-27-2003, 05:17 PM   #9
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I'll go with what fancy said, I don't know
a lot, but can easily find it again because
I remember "man" and "grep" quite well ;)

And some things that I do (or tell others to
do) all the time become "sticky" as XavierP
pointed out :}

If I come across info on google, and it took
me longer than 15 minutes to actually locate
what I wanted I'll a) bookmark the page and/or
b) save it in a folder called ~/snippets (with a
subdirectory structure) that I then "torture" with
grep on grep's output to locate what I need ;}

Needless to say thatI backup my Mozilla bookmarks
quite regularly. :}

Old 12-03-2003, 09:06 PM   #10
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Also not expert enough yet, but I find that in addition to remembering "man" and 'grep' remembering helps a lot. Also, the MozillaFirebird bookmarks toolbar is a great place (I have a Resources folder, right there in front of me with all the tech bookmarks I use.
Knowing where to find it is definitely the trick.
Edit: fixed url
Old 12-03-2003, 09:18 PM   #11
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I tend to remember most commands first time I use them. I try to use a command 3 or so times, so I remember it for good.
If I have fun with things, like with comps, things just stick very easily. Other subjects like biology, take me 10 times the amt. of effort.
Old 12-03-2003, 10:35 PM   #12
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man is my friend.. many many admins that I've met always tell me, if they can't remember it or the options, well, that's why they designed man.
Old 12-04-2003, 12:36 AM   #13
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There r few things that sticks in ur mind, like installation, u do it so many times that it come naturally to u, and some problems that u known the answer right straight away(recovery the boot loader etc),


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