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Old 10-18-2008, 10:44 AM   #31
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Here's how I do it :
I give them a chance to try linux on my PC (I have a special home dir on a separate partition for them, they have their own username and pass) but they don't have access to anything that can damage my system.
Any ordinary user account (even your own) shouldn't be able to access anything that'll damage your system. Only the root account should have that access, and you should almost never be running as root.
 
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Old 10-19-2008, 09:16 AM   #32
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Any ordinary user account (even your own) shouldn't be able to access anything that'll damage your system. Only the root account should have that access, and you should almost never be running as root.
Of course. I don't use root privileged unless I need to. But I wanted to give them their own user acc to keep my home dir safe as well (along with thousands of configuration files in it :O ).
 
Old 06-27-2020, 11:34 AM   #33
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When I was younger, I was an in-your-face evangelist for British motorcycles. I grew to care less and less till I no longer think about it. I no longer care about what is popular or smart, I just like people, and I am into helping them given an opportunity but otherwise just enjoy what works for me.

So now, I will be sitting on a garden wall, eating say, a cold potato, and when someone sees me eating something not wrapped in a fast-food establishment wrapper, they jump on my case and ask me if I am going to start haranguing them about how they should eat healthy and this or that. I'm like, leave me alone, I'm having my lunch.

Slackmagik, you are so right on. Thanks.
 
Old 06-27-2020, 12:16 PM   #34
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"Tell them its free" @Jamie barrow

The world is a complicated place. As someone once said to me there is no truth, but several versions of it and it depends on your context.


. In Ghana 99% of users (my empirical observation) are using cloned Windows.Comments to me out there were "why would i bother with that complicated Linux" when i can have Windows (cloned) as in free beer for FREE. The law out there a bit like the Police is a bit of a parody.

A lady told me she went on a "supposedly" legit course (Ghana ) where they instructed her how to download Cloned Windows.

I thought I was morally superior with Slackware Linux and posted a question to Richard Stallman of GNU. This was his reply :

Running an unauthorized copy of Windows still gives Microsoft power
over you. So I say: an unauthorized copy of Windows is a very bad
thing -- almost as bad as an authorized copy ;-{.

Slackware GNU/Linux has two flaws.
1. It contains nonfree programs.
See https://gnu.org/distros/.

2. The developers call it "Slackware Linux" which is unfair to the GNU Project.
See https://gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html and
https://gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html, plus the history in
https://gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html.


--
Dr Richard Stallman

Thus i interpret that as saying that looking at Cloned Windows and Slackware , its a case of "the lesser of two evils".

I was tempted to ask on Slackware forum why there was no nod of Acknowledgment to Gnu and call Slackware Linux , Slackware GNU/Linux instead then thought better of it !

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Old 06-27-2020, 12:22 PM   #35
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I think an important takeaway here is when someone offers to sell you something, listen. Decide. Don't avoid them and hide your head in the sand. Some evangelists are selling the real deal, even if their presentation is bad. Don't miss out. Most people do.
 
Old 06-27-2020, 12:31 PM   #36
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i had a look at whats "completely free" https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html


and there is a pragmatic problem PureOS looked a likely candidate then , my wifi wasn't recognized . I did some googling and answers were something like "add the none free repo" which seems to defeat the point.
 
Old 06-27-2020, 12:34 PM   #37
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You never have to buy. Always listen. Always think. Always choose.
 
Old 06-27-2020, 04:38 PM   #38
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WoW! The Zombie apocalypse is upon us! This post first died way back 15 years ago in 2005 then was resurrected in 2008, it's now on its third incarnation. Has anybody got a wooden stake or a silver bullet?

Play Bonny!

 
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Old 06-27-2020, 05:55 PM   #39
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I am currently trying to get people to use Linux at my school
So fifteen years later, are you still using linux, and do you think a higher percentage of people at your old school use it as a result of efforts to convert a few in your brief time there?
 
Old 06-28-2020, 01:29 PM   #40
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You don't. You applaud them for using the tools that work best for them.

A computer is a tool. Use what's best for you. Use what best allows *you* to get *your* work done.

I use Linux because it's the best tool for me and for what I do. I'm not some opensource zealot. I don't care if the code is proprietary. I simply care that it works, and that's what Linux does for me. It just works - for me.
 
Old 07-01-2020, 10:18 PM   #41
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You mercilessly shame them. Shaming is one of the most powerful ways to get people to do something for you. In fact, it's so powerful that, on an almost global scale, people are vying to get the lion share of this power while depriving others of it.

Of course it's kind of scummy to do that, but, it works.

Point right at their face and laugh at them, laugh at them for being a pleb who still doesn't use Linux in 2020. Laugh. Laugh at them every single second, humiliate them mercilessly, especially with peer pressure, if you can do that then they'll be installing Gentoo before you can say "Sorry bro, it was just a prank".
 
Old 07-04-2020, 03:15 PM   #42
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Lightbulb

I think it would be better for us to convert you into a developer for the cause?
http://coewww.rutgers.edu/www1/linux...ute/index.html

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

&c...



 
Old 07-05-2020, 03:33 PM   #43
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Whatever you do, please don't try to convert people that still use Windows 7 to install Linux on their machines:

https://techphylosopher.blogspot.com...windows-7.html
 
Old 07-05-2020, 07:08 PM   #44
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Hmmm.. This is STILL a zombie post from 2005!

Play Bonnie!

 
Old 07-06-2020, 10:02 PM   #45
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Whatever you do, please don't try to convert people that still use Windows 7 to install Linux on their machines:

https://techphylosopher.blogspot.com...windows-7.html
Hmmmm. People running Win 7 seem like excellent candidates for Linux to me. Especially if that machine started as XP. They're the ones gunna be the most amazed at the drastic improvement.

edit: I read the article. Ok yeah near the end there is a valid point. It's only worth it if you wanna spend the time messing with it. Buying a Chromebook would be a lot easier for many people and save them a lot of time. But if they like playing with computers, then it's fun, and certainly more useful than a chromebook. I automatically assumed the person using win7 can't afford or doesnt want to buy an expensive new computer so didn't consider those options (which he listed twice, windows & mac). They could just buy a cheap hub for their android phone and hook up their old monitor/keyboard/mouse too, probably be better than win7 and as good as chromebook.

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