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asumofparts 09-25-2010 02:24 PM

Hey Peeps !! An introduction and my very first question
Alex Boriqua .. design guy living in AZ having arrived from NYC.Miss NYC :(

I have just had it with Windows the bloat, the costs the quirks .. Done. Now while I am learning Linux I want to truly understand it. Not one for using something and not digging.

So. I had a 14 gig partition for Vista operating, a similar partition for Xp operating and then a separate partition for each .. document, programs and backup.

When I decided on ubuntu I used partition magic to carve out a 50gig space for it. I started from the disk and made my swap space 10 gig on a machine with 6 gig memory and then made the rest ... Something? I went to the next screen and chose / as my choice and all was good

But .. two things seem weird to me. When I start in Vista I dont see that partition. I still see the others I had previous to the ubuntu install but the partition I carved out for it doesn't show up as a drive.

Also .. it independently identified my documents folder and programs folder as its own so when I click documents I land up at my previously made documents drive instead to the ubuntu doc folder.

So what did I do wrong?

GrapefruiTgirl 09-25-2010 02:35 PM

Hey there, welcome to LQ!

Sounds like you did not do anything wrong - it sounds like a successful installation.

Note that I haven't seen nor used a Windows OS for a few years, so what I'm going to say is based on how things historically have been - Vista & Win-7 are new and unfamiliar to me, so if it's different on them than it used to be with XP, I'm sure someone will correct me soon enough.

1) Ubuntu does its install stuff mainly automatically, and pretty reliably. It sounds like during the install, it simply identified any/all other partitions on your HDD (as well as identifying any other drives too) and gave you a means to access them. So any partitions you had previously made, like for "documents" or "programs" will have maybe a desktop link to access them, and/or an item in the file manager (Nautilus) for opening/accessing those other partitions.

2) As for Windows not seeing your Linux partition.. This is normal too, because historically, Windows OS's are unable to read Linux file systems, such as something like Ext3 or Ext4 perhaps, that is being used for your Ubuntu / partition (/ means 'the root partition'). So, from a Windows vantage point, that space that's formatted in some Linux file system, is basically "not there" to Windows. Conversely, Linux can identify and read pretty much any file system out there, including NTFS, FAT, or whatever.

These days, there are applications or tools which can be installed in Windows, which provide a means for dealing with some Ext2/3 and maybe similar Linux file systems from Windows, but as implied above, I have never tried them and have no idea how well, or not, they work. In Linux, there have been tools available for quite a while now, and which are included with Ubuntu, that allow for interaction with NTFS file systems.

Hope that clarifies a bit for you - but if I've neglected to understand something, feel free to correct me on something or explain something differently.

Best of luck; have fun with you new Ubuntu system. :)

Kenny_Strawn 09-25-2010 02:54 PM

Linux -- any version -- uses a file system (Ext2/3/4) that M$ Windows fails to recognize. M$ Windows can only mount NTFS or FAT32.

mjolnir 09-25-2010 03:48 PM

I literally just now d/l this to XP, unzipped it and accessed a photo on PCLinuxOS and saved it to My Documents. This is on a desktop triple boot I am getting ready to clean out anyway so I was not worried of consequences. Use at your own risk!

"Ext2Read is an explorer like utility to explore ext2/ext3/ext4 files. It now supports LVM2 and EXT4 extents. It can be used to view and copy files and folders. It can recursively copy entire folders. It can also be used to view and copy disk and file"

Read/Copy not Read/Write.

baldur_1 09-25-2010 03:54 PM

in order to mount the linux drive in windows you can use ext3fs. i used this with my alternate boot to winsuck. i use fedora as my main operating system. the program works well and can read/write but be careful with any programs you install like that.

as for dual booting or something, windows will not allow you to do that. you have to install linux first and set up a dual boot to windows.

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