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Old 02-05-2016, 08:21 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by BW-userx View Post
software limited it ????
I mean no offense but man I feel like you don't read all text in the post.

I put notebook on my table and booted with Windows - strenght of the signal is pretty good.
Then I reboot with Deft with notebook on the same place and the wifi can't be seen.

I tried it at home and wifi signal in Deft degraded so much sooner than in Windows. So my question is, is there a way to make it better?

@Shadow_7
Thank you very much for your detailed post. I learned a lot and it finally made me understand your previous post, I really appreciate your effort.

As I said (I guess we wrote our posts approximately at the same time) it started working but the signal is much weaker than in Wins.
As you said
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You probably already have firmware, but this stuff might be newer and work better with your hardware.
I will try your idea in the evening, it might help it.

Really big thanks to you guys, I would be so lost without your willingness..
Adam

Last edited by poky; 02-05-2016 at 08:23 AM. Reason: approximately isn't spelled approximetly O.o
 
Old 02-05-2016, 08:25 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by poky View Post
I mean no offense but man I feel like you don't read all text in the post.

I put notebook on my table and booted with Windows - strenght of the signal is pretty good.
Then I reboot with Deft with notebook on the same place and the wifi can't be seen.

I tried it at home and wifi signal in Deft degraded so much sooner than in Windows. So my question is, is there a way to make it better?
that is what I meant, in windows it was good - in Linux it was lesser good then windows was. two seperate OS's two seperte software driving the same hardware, -> the hardware is the same for both OS's therefore deduction tells me that it may be a software problem.what you're using for software to run it I have no idea. from gui down to the driver -- look at it like this.


You know your hardware is working in windows, but not in linux = HARDWARE GOOD
the only thing left is software

2-1=1

and firmware is software
Quote:
firmware
frmwer/
nounComputing
noun: firmware
permanent software programmed into a read-only memory.
= we were both right...

logically speaking of course

Last edited by BW-userx; 02-05-2016 at 08:53 AM.
 
Old 02-06-2016, 01:28 PM   #48
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@Snadow_7

Well so I tried the steps you wrote and I ended when error occured:

Code:
sudo git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new rtlwifi_20160204
[sudo] password for adam: 
Cloning into 'rtlwifi_20160204'...
remote: Counting objects: 4028, done.
remote: Total 4028 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 4028
Receiving objects: 100 (4028/4028), 6.60 MiB | 229 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (3403/3403), done.

G4-Notebook-PC ~ % cd rtlwifi_20160204

sudo make -f Makefile
make -C /lib/modules/3.5.0-51-generic/build M=/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204 modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.0-51-generic'
  CC [M]  /home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.o
/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.c: In function rtl_pci_parse_configuration:
/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.c:432:2: error: implicit declaration of function pcie_capability_read_word [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[2]: *** [/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.0-51-generic'
make: *** [all] Error 2
and that sucks..

Yea and I hoped that I will be finally able to make this thread /solved ..


Btw if I run into another (but different problem with different thing) do I have to create new thread or is it ok for me to ask here? You seem like a smart guys
 
Old 02-06-2016, 02:01 PM   #49
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.Btw if I run into another (but different problem with different thing) do I have to create new thread or is it ok for me to ask here?
Hi...

If it's a different issue, you would need to create a new thread. I'm sorry getting your adapter to work hasn't worked out well. Perhaps Shadow_7 or someone else can help you with the errors you received.

Regards...
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:14 AM   #50
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@Snadow_7

Well so I tried the steps you wrote and I ended when error occured:

Code:
sudo git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new rtlwifi_20160204
[sudo] password for adam: 
Cloning into 'rtlwifi_20160204'...
remote: Counting objects: 4028, done.
remote: Total 4028 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 4028
Receiving objects: 100 (4028/4028), 6.60 MiB | 229 KiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (3403/3403), done.

G4-Notebook-PC ~ % cd rtlwifi_20160204

sudo make -f Makefile
make -C /lib/modules/3.5.0-51-generic/build M=/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204 modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.0-51-generic'
  CC [M]  /home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.o
/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.c: In function rtl_pci_parse_configuration:
/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.c:432:2: error: implicit declaration of function pcie_capability_read_word [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[2]: *** [/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204/pci.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/home/adam/rtlwifi_20160204] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.5.0-51-generic'
make: *** [all] Error 2
and that sucks..

Yea and I hoped that I will be finally able to make this thread /solved ..
The 3.5.x kernel is really old. There might be new features and syntaxes in the newer kernels that works when doing those exact steps. Doing a custom kernel is fairly well documented and not that complex. On kernel.org your 3.5.x kernel seems to have been abandoned since October 2012. Building the github driver is basically only grabbing part of a bleeding edge kernel. Which is likely why it's not happy with a 3+yo kernel.

When I first got my hp stream 11 I needed a 3.19 or newer kernel for wifi to be better and other things to work at all. But it wasn't until firmware changes in July of 2014 that things worked swell. When I first got that laptop, the 3.18 kernel was the latest and greatest available. It's probably easier to try another distro with a newer kernel IMO. Or try other hardware solutions and put off using that device until bleeding edge stuff is old stale stuff.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:59 AM   #51
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you still have not gotten your wifi working? Dang
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:40 PM   #52
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Maybe give a live cd of Kali Linux a try and see if the wifi works.

Most folks have had success with Kali and the wifi with the Live CD.

If installing that .deb pkg (firmware) didn't help than I don't know what will.
 
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did you try
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sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
 
Old 02-08-2016, 11:08 PM   #54
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This was the only information about DEFT 8 that I could find.
http://www.deftlinux.net/about/deft-association/

Maybe look in the DEFT Manual and see what it suggests' for getting the wifi to work.
http://www.deftlinux.net/deft-manual/

A lot of DEFT's packages are ubuntu based.

Quote:
bluez 4.101-0ubuntu6
catfish 0.4.0.2-0ubuntu1
clamav 0.98.1+dfsg-4ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10.2
creepy 0.1.94-1
cyclone 0.0.3-0ppa0
dash 0.5.7-3ubuntu1
http://www.deftlinux.net/package-list/

Here you can contact the developers at DEFT-
http://www.deftlinux.net/contacts/

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Old 02-09-2016, 03:56 PM   #55
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Thank you guys for your help. I tried everything I can think of and every idea you threw at me.
And now I give up. I rather use my time to learn about new distribution (Kali now) than waste that time trying to repair every error that old distribution had.

Really guys, thank you for your time and ideas. I appreciate every bit of help you gave me. You are really great community and I am really astonished how far are you willing to go to help a stranger with his stupid idea to make DEFT work..

You are great!

Adam
 
Old 02-09-2016, 06:37 PM   #56
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I rather use my time to learn about new distribution (Kali now) than waste that time trying to repair every error that old distribution had.
Hi Adam...

So are you able to use your adapter with Kali?

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Really guys, thank you for your time and ideas. I appreciate every bit of help you gave me. You are really great community and I am really astonished how far are you willing to go to help a stranger with his stupid idea to make DEFT work..
You're more than welcome, glad I could help. Praise God for what you saw from the community. Feel free to post again if you need help with something else.

It wasn't a stupid idea at all. It would have been worthwhile had there been better support for your adapter and the effort you showed in attempting to get it to work isn't common.

Regards...

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Old 02-09-2016, 08:01 PM   #57
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Glad I was able to help.

I hope Kali Linux will be a lot easier for you to work with.
 
  


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