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Old 05-20-2020, 09:28 PM   #1
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Help on Windows Linux


Though a member for quite a while, I have never asked a question before. If anyone can "spoon feed me" as to why "compiz" is not working. It keeps saying: "Fatal no composite extension". I keep looking at websites and they all basically give the same instructions, but I seem to be doing something incorrectly and do not know what. I run "Xming", I check "ccsm", I export the Display port, but it keeps indicating "Fatal" on Composite extension. Help is appreciated.

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Old 05-20-2020, 10:16 PM   #2
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Please provide more information. To quote Julie Newmar, the phrase "Windows Linux" does not compute.

What distro/version and what desktop environment are you using?
 
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Old 05-21-2020, 12:06 AM   #3
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I keep looking at websites and they all basically give the same instructions, but I seem to be doing something incorrectly and do not know what.
If you don't say which instructions you have received so far, you risk getting them again in this forum as well.
Nobody can say what you do incorrectly if you don't reveal what you do.
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I run "Xming", I check "ccsm", I export the Display port, but it keeps indicating "Fatal" on Composite extension. Help is appreciated.
Isn't xming for Windows? EDIT: It is.
If so, I'd say you are asking the wrong people.

Here is somebody with the same problem, and a solution: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-707807.html.

Last edited by berndbausch; 05-21-2020 at 12:07 AM.
 
Old 05-21-2020, 04:30 AM   #4
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I would guess the OP is running WSL ubuntu with the xming x server.

Please post the link to the guide to setting up the desktop you are using.
 
Old 05-21-2020, 06:51 AM   #5
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^ I can kinda see how compiz wouldn't work on that.
 
Old 05-21-2020, 07:27 AM   #6
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To all who have provided insight into my problem, thank you. I am running Build 19041.264 of Windows 10; it has the ability to install Linux and run Linux. I installed Ubuntu from the Microsoft Store (do not know the version, but it was yesterday morning (5/20/20). I also installed via apt-get many other things, including CCSM, Unity, Xming, and others. I can run LXDE and get a working desktop. I cannot get Firefox to work, but I guess it has to do with Windows being the OS, not sure. But my main concern is that I wanted to have the "Ubuntu" Desktop and not the LXDE one. But if I have to live with only that one, I can do that. If this is not the right place to post, then we can consider the matter closed. Thank you for your input, really.
 
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Old 05-21-2020, 07:55 AM   #7
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But my main concern is that I wanted to have the "Ubuntu" Desktop and not the LXDE one.
There really is no "Ubuntu Desktop" as such, it by default ships with Gnome (ubuntu 18.04 or later) or Unity (earlier releases), but can make use of KDE/Plasma, LXDE cq LXQT, XFCE, Mate, Budgie and Cinnamon too.
 
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Old 05-21-2020, 08:50 AM   #8
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I assume you mean Unity.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to...on-windows-10/

From the article...
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Now, don't go into this with false expectations. It's not going to run well.
WSL is a compatibility layer, it isn't the "real" operating system as if you were running a virtual machine.
 
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Old 05-21-2020, 09:45 AM   #9
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WSL is a compatibility layer, it isn't the "real" operating system as if you were running a virtual machine.
So do I take it that WSL is to Windows as Wine is to Linux?

I've been confuse by the "I'm running Linux on Windows" posts I've seen recently. Hmmm... Then again, nobody says they've been running Windows on Linux, rather, they've been running such and such a Windows program using Wine. Interesting...

Play Bonny!

 
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Your correct, WSL version 1 is basically like wine.

WSL version 2 requires you to become an insider member to install and actually uses virtualization. The installation resides on a real ext4 filesystem.
 
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So do I take it that WSL is to Windows as Wine is to Linux?
Not quite, it is more like CygWin: a complete Linux environment but running under Windows
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The Windows Subsystem for Linux lets developers run a GNU/Linux environment -- including most command-line tools, utilities, and applications -- directly on Windows, unmodified, without the overhead of a virtual machine.
So that would make it more like Container/Docker on Linux.

I assume (but that is purely my speculation) that they don't include an X- to MS-Windows translation layer, so (if that's true) graphical applications have to be for MS-Windows, not X, the Linux emulation would be text mode only.
They do say that the Linux environment can run MS-Windows applications from the commandline.
 
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Old 05-21-2020, 10:42 AM   #12
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No, as far as I know WSL 1 is not a container/docker. It does not use a real kernel.

Cygwin maybe a linux environment but does not run native linux applications. While they might look similar cygwin is not the same thing as WSL.
 
Old 05-21-2020, 03:39 PM   #13
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No, as far as I know WSL 1 is not a container/docker. It does not use a real kernel.
Unlike a full VM a container doesn't use a kernel of its own either:
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LXC (Linux Containers) is an operating-system-level virtualization method for running multiple isolated Linux systems (containers) on a control host using a single linux kernel.
(wikipedia)
 
Old 05-22-2020, 10:44 AM   #14
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Talking Help on Windows Linux

So I have read all your posts to this point and again thank you. What I get is that:

"It is not a "real" operating system ..."
"Linux emulation would be text mode only..."
"...it is not a real kernel..."
an among others, "...false expectations."

The gist of it is that I am running something that would give me the taste and ability to learn Linux, but not be "real" Linux; however, for me as a newbie, it would easier to experiment without the possibility of loosing everything (crash and burn). I can have my "desktop" via this "startlxde" command on what I installed and toy with the system.

I had installed Linux and a partition once and ended up having to reformat, since I lost the boot capability of Windows (I know now how to avoid it) and could not learn the Linux commands to do much of anything. So this for me is probably the safest way to try to learn it.

Thank you all. Be safe with this COVID going around.

Don't know how to close the thread, but one of you should.

Zordos (Andy Mejias)

Last edited by zordos; 05-22-2020 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Reptetitious wording
 
Old 05-22-2020, 10:53 AM   #15
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If your computer has enough resources RAM/ disk space/ CPU power you could run VirtualBox and install linux as a virtual machine.
Its just another program to Windows
 
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