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Old 10-29-2004, 02:07 PM   #1
petercockroach
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Exclamation GRUB --> Can't boot my computer to anything!


Hey everyone. I'm sitting here running Knoppix so that I can try and get an answer. I just loaded SuSE onto my partitioned external HDD (USB) . Everything seemed to be going fine but I rebooted after the install and all it does is take me to the GRUB screen and then nothing happens. I'm guessing that GRUB is loading from my primary HDD and the system has not detected my USB drive yet. In any case, I'm assuming I need to somehow edit the grub configuration. I don't know how to get back on to Windows by bypassing the GRUB loader.

Please help me, I'm close to tears!!
 
Old 10-29-2004, 02:20 PM   #2
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I figured out how to boot to the rescue shell. Now what do I change??
 
Old 10-29-2004, 05:11 PM   #3
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Welcome to LQ. Can you provide more details about your system - what mobo do you have, what hard drives are installed, etc. Based on what you've written, it appears you want to boot from your external USB drive - if so, I believe it's acccurate to say that capability is dependent on your BIOS. Some mobos support it, others don't.

Additionally, assuming you can at least get to a command line prompt, can you post the contents of the GRUB file. -- J.W.
 
Old 10-29-2004, 05:20 PM   #4
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I'm assuming my "mobo" is Nspire USBPM-525U2PCSB (modification box?). My BIOS does not seem to have the option to boot off my external so (I think) I installed GRUB on my internal drive. I'm guessing this because when I disconnect my external and turn the computer on, the word GRUB still shows up when booting.

I can get to the command line using the SuSE rescue command thingy but I have no idea how to access the Grub.conf or even if it's possible to do through the rescue system.

Quite the linux newbie :-)
 
Old 10-29-2004, 05:53 PM   #5
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Sorry - "mobo" is short for motherboard. How many drives are installed, where are they installed (meaning primary master, secondary slave, etc), and what currently is installed on each one? The idea here is just that the more data everyone has about how your system is currently configured, the better and more specific suggestions they can offer. -- J.W.
 
Old 10-29-2004, 06:12 PM   #6
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I'm using a Toshiba Tecra S1 laptop so I'm not quite sure about the motherboard...

I'm not really sure about the drives but here's what I do know:

hda = primary windows drive
sda = secondary windows drive
sdc = SuSE installation

I'm assuming my hdb is where GRUB is installed.

I'm thinking about deleting that partition if possible just so I can have my windows back and I can return to my regular Windows lifestyle before continuing. Will this be a problem??
 
Old 10-29-2004, 07:38 PM   #7
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1st question: then how are you going to read this?
2nd. What version of WIN do you have?

Ok. I screwed myself last weekend trying to repartition my drive and the exact same thing happened. If I can remember correctly I...
Swore
Drank a beer
then I started in Win by pressing F8 a bunch of times at the beginning of boot. Then I started with a safe mode w/ CL. Once I got my CL I looked through help and found a command regarding boot. then I disabled/deleted? the boot and restarted. Once I could get to windows I restarted with my Linux CD and did an upgrade.

Probably could have done ita faster way, but it worked.

Sorry about the non technical CL commands. It was really easy though.
 
Old 10-29-2004, 09:48 PM   #8
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Using Knoppix to view the forum / someone else's computer.

I'm running XP Pro.
 
Old 10-29-2004, 10:23 PM   #9
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Heres one way that you can do it... Get back to windows, that is. The only catch is if you have some kind of Windows boot disk, of if you can get to some sort of Windows CL. The way that I know this is I have been shopping around for a Linux distro, and have tried a few... Seeing my fair share of the GRUB BL. Here is my situation and how I fixed it.

I am running W2k, and have tried SuSE, Mandrake, Fedora Core 1 & 2... Anyways, the way that I would wipe Linux off is just boot into W2k and repartition the HD I have Linux on. Which works well, except then when I reboot the GRUB.conf is gone, but GRUB resides on the MBR, so GRUB pops up, but there are no options and I am screwed.

My guess is that is your problem. GRUB is on your MBR, which is the Primary Master HD, in most cases, and the GRUB.conf is in your external HD which has not been initalized yet. I tried repartioning my Primary Master HD then reformating it too. Guess what! The MBR is still there.

Here's what you can do, (before you FDISK or FORMAT your Windows drive... I found this out after reinstalling W2k 4 times!) Get to a Windows CL... The way I do it is I have a WIN98SE boot floppy that I have had for a long time. When you get to a CL type FDISK /MBR... That should do it, and no Windows reinstall.

Good Luck!
 
Old 10-30-2004, 01:39 AM   #10
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IT WORKED!! I'm back in Windows! Thank you so much!!

I actually had to type fixmbr from the recovery console but I simply restarted and boom. Things are back to normal.

NOW...Is there any way to boot up SuSE off my USB HDD or should I just say forget it and delete the partition?
 
Old 10-30-2004, 02:13 AM   #11
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I say... Partition the drive and so a dual boot.

Or get yourself an additional drive to boot from bios.


Get ready for the switch
 
Old 10-30-2004, 02:55 AM   #12
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Is there any way to just configure my boot.ini so I can enter SuSE??

Or for that matter, is there any way to install Lilo or GRUB without having the same problem?

Any ideas?

Last edited by petercockroach; 10-30-2004 at 11:57 AM.
 
Old 10-31-2004, 02:47 AM   #13
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anyone???
 
  


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