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Old 12-20-2003, 12:12 AM   #1
duerra
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Excuse me for just a minute....

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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How many times to I freaking have to do this?!!!! This is insane! I've had Mandrake, the (explicitive) of Linux OS' for 3 days, and I've already reinstalled it 3x, and every freaking time, something has gone wrong!

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First, Linux-secure drops me into @$#^@$^ nothingness. "Glowing black screen", as I've become all too buddy-buddy with.

Then, I couldn't get Apache insalled properly, once I finally figured out that I wasn't getting anywhere in "linux-secure", and just booted into "linux"

Then everything crapped out... lost all my browsers, everything.

Tried to config, then I couldn't even boot into GUI

Reinstall

Finally got packages upgraded, and everything seemed to be ok for once.
I find out that 'Drake decided that I only needed half of my RAM, and half of my processors. Kernel recompile time.

Kernel recompile craps out on reboot, I boot back into my "glowing black screen of nothingness", and when I try to load up "slack.old" from the little tutorial, I get something about the kernel going ape-shit.

Reinstall

Install goes to crap this time. Couldn't get anything upgraded after the base install. Just plain doesn't work, even though my connection settings were perfect (my first thought, which proved wrong when the DNS resolved when I first logged in).

Browsers are gone again, and not only that, but this time my Mandrake "help center" program for configuring my box is nowhere to be found, either.

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Can somebody tell me what the bloody @#&$^ is going on here? Does Linux really bomb every time you look at it.... I mean, wtf, I haven't even looked at it cross-eyed! This is insane... this is supposed to be one of the most stable OS', right? I mean, does that mean I can't touch the machine, and it will be fine?

I'm so lost, this is immensely frustrating and annoying... and the worste part is that I've found no reason for all these things to go wrong! I haven't DONE anything to cause them to go wrong! I can see the kernel recompile getting messed, but then I couldn't even get back into Linux, even though I set up to be able to!!

I come out of install this time and I can't even do anything - even logged in as root, I've got nothing. No Computer Config area, no browsers... nothing and I installed from the disk the exact same as the other two times .

Somebody please say something... anything... I don't care. I'm just so.... needing to vent. I don't know how you guys do this without blowing shit up. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I just want to ^&#&@#&$%&$&% scream.

Last edited by duerra; 12-20-2003 at 12:14 AM.
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:17 AM   #2
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check this out... http://www.microsoft.com/windows give it a try you might like it
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:20 AM   #3
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and your question is?? Why did u wanna install apache if you couldnt even get the base system working properly? Kernel recompile?? I have used linux for almost a year and i never needed to do a kernel recompile.. an average user doesnt need to do that. What do u mean the browsers are not there? and the control center is gone...wtf... LOL, i am getting stressed out just reading what u are going through...
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:25 AM   #4
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Mandrake has made me want to blow stuff up too

I would suggest trying a different distribution, if you can get ahold of one. I've been very happy with Gentoo; already had it on one of my boxes, and just yesterday replaced Mandrake 9.0 with it on my other box. Takes a long time to compile stuff, so if your machine is sort of slow you could use the pre-compiled binaries (Stage 3, they call it). The documentation on the Gentoo site is extremely good - walks you through everything. But if you're not familiar with creating partitions and stuff like that, you will probably want to stay away from it.

Debian is pretty good too, but also requires some prior knowledge, and I have had trouble with the Cheapbytes installation CDs of it. I can't think of a distribution off the top of my head that is easier as a newbie install than Mandrake (maybe Redhat/Fedora), but as you are now aware, Mandrake has its flaws. Maybe someone else can recommend another distribution for you to try.

Barring that possibility, though, I'd suggest just taking it one step at a time. If you run into a problem during installation, see if you can resolve it before moving on. When you post, try to tell us as much as you can about the error/problem, and be as specific as possible! It may take a lot of patience, but it's definitely worth it. Once you get it up and running, you'll be glad you didn't give up!
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:26 AM   #5
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I am going to recommend SUSE here. I used the Live Eval and right away the thing picked up my Video Card, mouse, everything.

www.suse.com

Check it out, if you have paid for Mandrake I am sorry. If you haven't nothing lost except time. I am having some Linux pains of my own at the minute...but like I said the SUSE os worked pretty well especially since it was "Linux on a CD"

Mike
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:33 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by trey85stang
check this out... http://www.microsoft.com/windows give it a try you might like it
LOL
Sorry just had to laugh
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:48 AM   #7
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Good Luck
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:49 AM   #8
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have to agree with brother mike...i'm using suse..i'm a total newb..and i've had no problems i haven't been able to figure out...it detected everything it should..it works nice, and i'm learning new stuff everyday with it...no complaints here with suse...
 
Old 12-20-2003, 12:52 AM   #9
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this post is freakin' hillarious
 
Old 12-20-2003, 01:40 AM   #10
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I have Suse linux 9.0 Professional and I have to say it is a great disro. If your willing to install via ftp or want to get the bells and wistles for the pro on CD, it is worth it. Suse has lots of bells and wistles making it very large if you install everything it comes with so unless you have a good size hard drive, don't install everything. I've used mandrake also and was happy with it. Make sure you compare the check sums with MD5 against your iso's. There may be a slight problem with one of your CD's causing you problems. I've downloaded 2 bad CD's of mandrake and had to redownload the ISO's to get it working right. If you want to see if there is a better flavor of Linux suited to your liking, go to www.linux.org. I've had some very frusterating times with Linux myself so I know the frusteration. Don't give up and you'll probibly learn some new things about linux. If you can get Linux to boot, check you log files for any sort of errors. This also may point you i the right direction of where your problem lies. I hope this may help some.


Good luck!

Jim

Edit: Look in your /var/log/boot.log to see if you got any errors in the log file.

Last edited by antihuman; 12-20-2003 at 01:49 AM.
 
Old 12-20-2003, 02:06 AM   #11
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if i were you i would just start off with slackware

some people think it is hard to install but all you need to do is pay a little more attention

plus using slackware is a good way to get to know linux better
 
Old 12-20-2003, 11:24 AM   #12
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Greetings everybody

Yeah... it was a rant. I needed to vent somewhere, just way too much frustration. I'm getting a walk-through to install debian right now, which is proving to be an absolute disaster (LSI SCSI controller isn't well liked).

I actually wanted to install slackware, and even attempted to, but the controller thing caused me problems. I ended up using 'Drake as a last-resort.

Quote:
Why did u wanna install apache if you couldnt even get the base system working properly? Kernel recompile?? I have used linux for almost a year and i never needed to do a kernel recompile.. an average user doesnt need to do that. What do u mean the browsers are not there? and the control center is gone...wtf... LOL, i am getting stressed out just reading what u are going through...
Everything (except for this last install) was working ok at first, and then went to crap later. I needed to do a kernel recompile because the install didn't give me dual-processor support, and support for 2GB of RAM. Instead, it was only registering 1GB of RAM, and one processor. Unfortunately, this isn't an "average" hobbyist wanting to see the bennefits of Linux. While I want to do that as well, this is a necessity thing right now, and a hobbyist thing later.

As for the browsers not there... it's just that. They simply disappeared in KDE and GNOME. There's really no other way to explain it. In the latest install, they were never there to begin with. That, and the 'Drake control panel.

Just so much frustration, and I had to vent somewhere. Like I said in my initial post, some of the stuff that get messed had absolutely no reason to get messed up. I just plain stopped working, or in my case, just disappeared. I still don't know what the "glowing black screen" thing is all about, but it happens after I boot, and the kernel loads, the screen just goes blank. Hopefully the debian install will "cure" this.
 
Old 12-20-2003, 04:51 PM   #13
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ahan... if only u had given this information before.. dual processor's eh? I still dont see how changing a distro can make everything alright.. or in other words configure everything for u.. try FreeBSD
 
Old 12-20-2003, 09:42 PM   #14
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Actually, I kind of did:

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I find out that 'Drake decided that I only needed half of my RAM, and half of my processors. Kernel recompile time.
I have slackware installed now, so I will try and get that working with everybody here. I'm scared of BSD... not as much support available as with Linux.
 
  


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