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Mill J 08-08-2017 09:10 PM

I sometimes share data between host and VM by mounting a USB in the VM. Or if you only need to transfer data to the VM just put it in a iso file and mount that in the vm.

If you really want to learn linux.... Get a distro with no GUI :)

BTW killing computers never got Linux running.

A computer never makes a mistake. it does what its told too.

Luridis 08-08-2017 10:44 PM

Let me give you a hint... Like Mill J said, "computers only do what they're told to."

Now, let me bring you in on the big secret. It is terribly embarrassing to the Linux community so few will ever mention it, much less admit to it.

Most of the people working on Linux, aren't very good at working on Linux.

I'd estimate that over half the people working on Linux, especially the desktop, have very little idea what they're doing. Many of these people are unskilled, undisciplined, unwilling or are otherwise unable to: code in a language appropriate to their goals, maintain their own code, fix bugs in their own code, package their code properly for distribution, create developer/user/administrator documentation. All too often, these people bite off far more than they can chew and have absolutely no interest in doing anything but what seems "cool" to them at the time. If you don't believe me, just search GitHub for the word "boilerplate" and look at how much effort many of these people put into whining about code requirements for contributions. Finally, if you get anywhere near that truth with them, they will often yell at you and tell you to go read-the-effin-nonexistant-(in-many-cases)-manual. Some will even tell you the source code is the manual if you point out there's no manual. (Note: Documentation hasn't always been this way, just since 2008+. TLDP was actually maintained in the 1990's, but it appears to be unpopular with Generation Why.)

So, if you want to run Linux, you have to be prepared to do a lot yourself. Troubleshoot a lot yourself. Personally, I got so sick of distro developer mistakes I started building my Linux systems from source more than a decade ago.

hazel 08-09-2017 01:57 AM

I suppose the answer to that is to stick with a traditional distro. I mean, what the hell is Solus? Is it even Linux at all?

Caltrop 08-09-2017 09:36 AM

I have a programming background. BASIC, Pascal/Ada, Assembler, C, COBOL, FORTRAN, LISP, VBA, JAVA Script, ...

I was also studying to be an Engineer but that turned to !@#$%^&!. Turns out that the credits I accrued while in the military do NOT transfer. I'm not talking about the military stuff but real colleges I attended while I was imprisioned in the military.

Started in the old DOS days.
College - UNIX.
Every flavour of Windows, XP was the best.
Now on to Linux & getting very good fast!

Got VirtualBox fully functional finally. Turns out the virtual part is not as virtual as one would think. Needs drivers installed in the guest WindowsXP. Didn't get it clear from the manual.

The BIG thing now is system colors.
Some themes are close but not totally to my liking.
Things like FireFox Browser are picking up system colors causing poor visability; not Linux fault.

So there. I don't consider myself a NEWBIE anymore. I've been digging in configuration files and logging as root so many times I'm dizzy. I'll get this color issue solved eventually or write my own program to do what I want.

ondoho 08-10-2017 01:13 AM

well done, so you ARE getting along!


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Originally Posted by Caltrop (Post 5746365)
Turns out that the credits I accrued (...) do NOT transfer.

i had the same xperience in my line of work.
it was very frustrating at first (stupid bureaucracy), but in the end, what could i do, just had to re-accrue everything from zero, more or less...

it seems something similar would apply to your current window/linux situation as well...

hazel 08-10-2017 01:41 AM

I think there are two types of people who thrive on Linux:

1. There are those who just want a system that works and that allows them to feel safe on the Net. They don't know much about Windows, only enough to know they don't like or trust it. If someone sets them up with a Linux box, they will potter along for years, doing their own updates and only needing help if something unusual happens.

2. Some people get addicted to knowledge. When they discover that they can actually control their system instead of just doing as they are told, they go wild, doing all kinds of stuff as root, plunging into shell scripting, and often trashing things and having to reinstall. But they learn, they read omnivorously and become happy Linux experts.

You look to me as if you might be the second type.

Mill J 08-10-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5746591)
I think there are two types of people who thrive on Linux:

1. There are those who just want a system that works and that allows them to feel safe on the Net. They don't know much about Windows, only enough to know they don't like or trust it. If someone sets them up with a Linux box, they will potter along for years, doing their own updates and only needing help if something unusual happens.

2. Some people get addicted to knowledge. When they discover that they can actually control their system instead of just doing as they are told, they go wild, doing all kinds of stuff as root, plunging into shell scripting, and often trashing things and having to reinstall. But they learn, they read omnivorously and become happy Linux experts.

You look to me as if you might be the second type.

Well said. Anybody who's done anything serious on Linux, has ruined a system or two. I'm no exception:)


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