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Old 10-22-2006, 04:41 PM   #1
Matteh
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Graphics trouble


I Looked around to see a introducing section but did not find one so i will introduce myself in my first post which is here.

My name is Matt and im a first time SuSe Linux user! Im friendly , and hopefully you will know me

So.. after reading the "read first" thread and following the links i decided to post my problem here.

After i installed Suse Linux 10.1 the desktop loaded but the screen it really messed up, all the colours are very bad and its multiplied and copied just about everywhere. Oh and i cant see my mouse.

I have a Gainward GeForce 6800GS AGP graphics card and im having trouble downloading a driver and installing it as im totally new to the system!

If anyone can point me in the right direction or guide me through how i would fix this that would be great,ive tried messing with the display setting but its just jumbled it around and not really helped at all. Ill take a photo on my next attempt at a fix.

Im looking forward to using Linux - thankyou for your time and i hope you can help!

oh and i just clicked the similar thread button which didnt really help me find the Answer before someone gets angry with me. Thanks.
 
Old 10-22-2006, 05:24 PM   #2
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dunno if that card might be supported or not. It sometimes makes a difference as to how new it is (meaning up to date).

Theres quite a few ways that you might be able to get a usable interface though.

And yes, it's gonna sound complicated, but it's not really.

I'm presuming that you're dual booting the SuSE with windows - which helps to get assistance etc, even if you have to print off or write long hand.

So, I'm guessing that your card or possibly the monitor are being a pain.

You'd need to be able to check one of the primary graphics config files (erm, you could, if you think it'd be easier, search the suse forum here at LQ, or google for suse forums, that might give you an easier way or correcting this).

The file is called /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and yes, any editing would have to be done manually this way.

You'd have to stop the x server, usually done with the ctrl+alt+delete keys all together - you might have to do that a couple of times though.

Once you get offered a text login, then you'll need to be root (superuser) so put in root and the root password - which you should have set when installing.

Then the command is
Code:
vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
once you get the file up, you can edit it.

remember you're using the "vi" editor here (like in the first part of the command). so you can only usually move round the file with the arrow keys, you can't change anything until you've hit the Insert key - you make any changes, then you have to hit the Esc key, then to save and quit, it's :wq (thats colon : and the letters w and q) - if you're not sure, then just :q (colon : and letter q) to quit.

As for the bit to change, well in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf it looks like this

Quote:

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
#Option "sw_cursor"
#Option "hw_cursor"
#Option "NoAccel"
#Option "ShowCache"
#Option "ShadowFB"
#Option "UseFBDev"
#Option "Rotate"
Identifier "Card0"
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
Driver "nvidia"
Option "RenderAccel" "1"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "1"
Option "RandRRotation" "1"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "1"
Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "1"
Option "TripleBuffer" "1"
Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV"
Option "Coolbits" "1"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Don't worry about all the other stuff, the line to change is the one in bold, marked Driver "nvidia".

You might try either the generic "nv" driver, or "vesa" or even "vga" and see, after saving and quiting that you can get a usable GUI - you might need to see if you can change the resolution as well. If I use either "nv" or "vesa" I have to change from 1600x1200 to 800x600 and the refresh rate to 60hz to get a screen that I can use with graphics input.

The only time you'd have the file (the xorg.conf) saying "nvidia" is when the system has the nvidia driver installed.

I know that suse does have a few of it's own tools to modding hardware like this, but it's been a while since I used suse so can only suggest how I'd do this manually.

Erm, I think that the hardware config tool is called "Sax 2", so you might also have a google too see if theres anything that explains how you might achieve this in an easier way.

Sorry if that lot sounds like I'm talking a weird dialect of martian - when you get used to it, it's not hard. Really, but it aint windows (it's better ), but also takes getting used too.

You might also, if you have a bit of time, download one of the liveCD distros like knoppix or one of the "buntu's" (I'd say kubuntu as it's kde interface is a little more familiar if you're coming from using windows).

If a live CD version boots OK and you get the GUI OK, then you should be able to look at the xorg.conf file, note down/print off. Shut down the live CD, restart the main system and then modify the file accordingly.

Again, apologies if that all sounds a bit spooky - hopefully it will point you in the right direction

regards

john
 
Old 10-23-2006, 01:51 AM   #3
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Hi there

this is a known issues with Linux and video drivers. To get them working with your particular adpater may take some time and requires some expertise.
There are several Soluitons.
1. change your distribution to FC3 or FC5,
2. use MESA drivers, they are known to work and support most VGA's, but only they support 2D, so no games with those drivers.
MESA drivers wil allow you to have a clear display, then u can try and play around with other drivers before u get a work around.
 
Old 10-23-2006, 07:17 AM   #4
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Thanks so much , im using linux right now and my display is working fine now , im using the vesa drivers and it seems to be working fine , Thankyou for your help!
 
Old 10-23-2006, 12:30 PM   #5
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if you get the nvidia driver from nvidia's web page you would have full 3d.
 
Old 10-25-2006, 07:39 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matteh
Thanks so much , im using linux right now and my display is working fine now , im using the vesa drivers and it seems to be working fine , Thankyou for your help!
If you google for suse forums - you should find out how to install the nvidia driver.

YaST - the suse package management tool, has a semi-automated way of doing this, I just can't remember how it's done, but I do recall that it was quite straight forward - I seem to remember that theres a howto on it - possibly at the nvidia site.

Anyway, well done in getting it going, nvidia driver or not.

regards

John
 
Old 10-25-2006, 12:05 PM   #7
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You could also start by reading Suse's nVidia Driver install How-to

http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-...ler-HOWTO.html
 
  


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