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Old 11-14-2003, 06:16 AM   #16
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I just was in the having redhat wanting gentoo position.Went like this.Me buy new laptop - comes with XP,of course.XP dies after 10 minutes flat and can't be reanimated.Throw in the redhat cd's and install that - ok nice.Try to play video.Doesn't work because of missing codecs etc.Try to install mplayer from rpm and source - no go.Try xine with rpm - no go.Compile xine from source - ok.Thinking about going thru that shit all the time - get hotel room with broadband connection,install gentoo.End of story.
Anything that uses rpm's is out of the question for me.If I use anything else than gentoo it's debian.

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Old 11-14-2003, 06:22 AM   #17
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so your saying all my problems that ive had with redhat are redhat itself?

ive had permission problems... rpm hangs... rpm corrupts whole OS... rpms dont work, dont install... folders wont move, copy, icons were all invisible.. control panel wouldnt let me in without errors and close...

ive only had redhat for a week and i feel like im learning but theres too many problems, corrupted stuff, hangs and all that headache shit to be messing with it...

i want gentoo but i read the install manual and ran the cd and when i press f2 at cd insert.. i have no clue what to do after that.... no clue at all...

so now im trying mandrake 9.2 but i cant seem to find any good d/l links for it...

what do yous suggest? i want somethin thats really easy.. cool upgrades... icons themes and stuff.. easy internet configs... (btw i have broadband now unil monday.. i borrow it from my freind about every other week, so i could get gentoo working good.)
Old 11-14-2003, 06:43 AM   #18
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Dunno - I'd give a debian based distro a spin if I where you.It's easier to install than gentoo.The free downloads are always for a older version but you can use the debian tools to update to whatever you want.Check with
There is list of debian based distros.
Old 11-14-2003, 12:00 PM   #19
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The only real warnings I'd list about gentoo are these:
**MUST be on high-speed internet connection if you want to enjoy the expeience.
**MUST be able to read and follow instructions well - the instructions on WILL WORK if you pay attention to the 'do this if... but don't if...' parts.
**Gentoo software installations are run off of a Portage system rather than an RPM system, so please do get to know linux before trying gentoo, but don't get hung up on looking for RPMs when you want software. Take some time to read about and understand the portage software handling system as described on BEFORE you dedicate yourself.
**Because of the system-specific build nature, Gentoo is not the best distro if you're planning on building the OS on one system then transferring the hard drive to a new box. Solved by building Gentoo on the new box and transferring settings.
**Like working in a shell/console for system updates rather than point-and-click, as emerge works best via typed commands (I would assume this already if you're using linux for more than email/browsing/word processing).

Major bonuses of gentoo:
**The entire OS and all programs are personally tailored to your hardware and personal preferences, so you have less bloat than most any other OS/distro (no scanner programming for your processor to ignore if you don't have a scanner) and therefore have a very FAST system.
**Updates to entire system (added a scanner) with one 'emerge' command.
**Complete control over installed software (what is/isn't installed and what will the installed software do), and all dependencies are automatically dealt with via emerge.
**Latest versions (or older based on your preference) of everything, and automatic reconfiguration of related software for updates (upgrade KDE and all KDE-dependant software will be updated to respond to the new version)

You'll notice I use Gentoo. I love it. I'm not a programmer at all, but I can follow instructions well, have cable internet, and don't change my video card and processor every 3 weeks. And, not to belittle these forums in ANY way, the Gentoo forums are also amazing - for Gentoo issues.

In response to your RH issues - RH has announced that they will not be supporting their user distros after April (5 months) so they can focus entirely on Enteprise. Looks like you'll be looking for a new distro anyway... if you like easy and capable go Mandrake or SuSE to keep with the RPM software format. If you're looking to grow go Gentoo or Debian/clones.
Old 11-14-2003, 12:42 PM   #20
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You can save download time by ordering some cheap CDs for Gentoo.

Gentoo CDs
Old 11-14-2003, 06:12 PM   #21
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i have gentoo already but i cant figure out how to install it lol... i read the install.html and i am lost.. if someone wants to help me install it ill check it out... i can always delete it later...

i have rh and xp on this box so if i mess up ill just format the partition again.

i want to try gentoo real bad but i have soo many problems with redhat right now that im almost scared to try it....

can someone please send me links of stuff i should d/l for gentoo, that way i will have all i need on dc's and can do a nice install. Please include pdf's, html's and readmes so i can read my help right in gentoo so i dont have to go back to xp and ask questions.

o yeah.. im trying to find mandrake 9.2 but i cant seem to find a good linky


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