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TheOneAndOnlySM 07-14-2003 09:23 PM

Gaming on Linux
 
I would really LoVe to entirely remove windows from my hdd, but i still need it to play my favorite games (warcraft, vice city and such) and i am wondering if it is possible to make these games work on linux (since they are .exe i don't think u can run them without special software)

i have heard of wine, but since it is still a very young and glitchy software, should i try to tackle the games with wine or keep windows?

contrasutra 07-14-2003 09:33 PM

Well, WINE has been being worked on for MANY years, so its not young.

But what you want is WineX. Its a pay-only version of WINE made especially for games.

And it works w/ both those games.

transgaming.com

kly546 07-14-2003 09:34 PM

Before that can be answered, what exactly are your reasons for wanting to switch to linux?

TheOneAndOnlySM 07-14-2003 09:54 PM

i'm switching because i want to try something new and learn more about computers, i want to be in an environment where programming will be necessary (so i can learn some programming), and i cannot stand windows much longer

winex sounds interesting, i'll look into that
are there any other ways?

contrasutra 07-14-2003 10:44 PM

you don't need to know programming to use Linux. I don't know any programming and im doing just fine. :)

JaseP 07-14-2003 11:00 PM

WineX is great,...

I have the following running with version 3.1 and my Mandrake 8.2 installation:

Jedi Outcast
Elite Force
StarCraft
Jedi Knight
Fallout
Fallout 2
Pax Imperia
Star Trek: Birth of the Federation
StarFleeet Academy

I have the following Native games:

Descent 3
Quake 3 Arena
Sim City 3000
Terminus
Neverwinter Nights
Return to Castle Wolfenstein (I had problems setting up this one so I used WineX for it and currently don't have it installed).
FreeSpace: The Great War
FreeSpace 2

I heard that you can get the following running with Wine,...

Imperium Galacticia II (no under WineX for me)
Spiderman (non-movie version, again, no luck for me)
Starfleet Command II & SFC 2: Orion Pirates (no luck for me, too hard to configure)

So you can see there is no lack of gaming potential.

I have also had more luck with Jedi Outcast under WineX than as a Windoze native (driver conflicts, etc.).

bkeating 07-15-2003 12:42 AM

Keep in mind that you do not NEED Wine-X. Thats just a work around and it doesn't help support game makers with adding GNU/Linux support.


Quake3, RTCW, Never Winter Nights and a few others work great, natively in under GNU/Linux, better then windows even.

GodFoca 07-15-2003 02:04 AM

QUAKE 3
 
How do you install Q3 native in Lnx???

GodFoca

warkrime 07-15-2003 03:32 AM

If want to be a Linux gamer I would recommend getting a nVidia Geforce card. There isn't currently any driver support for ATI (Radeon) cards which means you will get like 3 fps when playing even Tux Racer :P.

Bill_Tür 07-15-2003 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by warkrime
There isn't currently any driver support for ATI (Radeon) cards
???
I am running a Radeon 7500 and it works fine. I have no problem running TuxRacer or OpenGL Games. Check this link for all cards that are supported http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status.html

GodFoca 07-15-2003 08:14 AM

I am having the exact opposite problem, however. I have a GeForce 2 MX 400, and can't find any drivers for Linux, so not only the 3D games are going in 3fps, but also I can't get my resolution below 640x480 and thus I can't play Tux Racer @#$&%.

Anyways, anybody knows where do I get some drivers???

GodFoca

mad_ady 07-15-2003 09:44 AM

GodFoca, try nvidia.com. There you can choose your driver (actually its only one driver for all nvidia cards). Read the readme's and install. If you do everything there, you'll have a working 3d accelerated environment!

Why would you want to get your resolution below 640x480 to play Tux Racer? Maybe above 640x480... :)

TheOneAndOnlySM 07-15-2003 10:29 AM

hmm, very interesting about installing games natively on linux

so games like never winter nights u can basically put into your cd drive and it will install just fine?

also, with getting winex, u need to subscribe for 3 months for 5 bucks a month correct?

o ya, could anyone find some info saying that ati radeon 9600 is compatible with redhat 9 kernel 2.4.20-8?

tcaptain 07-15-2003 01:16 PM

Freespace has a native linux client????

OMG...I gotta go and find it woohoo! I loved that game.

slightcrazed 07-15-2003 01:37 PM

When I installed NWN I did it by installing it first on a Windoze machine, then copying over the files I needed from the windoze box to my RedHat box, and then finally installing the NWN linux client. I believe that there is an installer that was written to allow installing of the game direct from CD, but I just followed the directions on the NWN site.

slight

zetsui 07-15-2003 01:58 PM

its called vmware its 100% native

tcaptain 07-15-2003 02:10 PM

doesn't Vmware lack directx support tho?

warkrime 07-15-2003 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill_Tür
???
I am running a Radeon 7500 and it works fine. I have no problem running TuxRacer or OpenGL Games. Check this link for all cards that are supported http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status.html

So you can run Tux Racer at acceptable fps? Where did you get the driver? Do they have one for the Radeon 9700? I checked the link but nothing was said about any Radeon cards.

JaseP 07-15-2003 10:54 PM

For those who don't like to compile or install on Windoze first to be able to run FreeSpace, FreeSpace 2 or Neverwinter Nights,...

Check out ravage's installers. They use a wine routine to install the code directly into Linux, and look reminicient of Loki's installers for Quake 3.

ravage's icculus website:
http://icculus.org/~ravage/

For Quake 3, use the Linux point releases. You can get them from ID's website or the mirrors listed there.

zetsui 07-16-2003 02:23 AM

uhhhhhh no it doesnt, it supports windows 99% it runs a seperate machine which u install windows onto

Bill_Tür 07-16-2003 02:27 AM

4.3.0:

Accelerated support is provided for Mach64, Rage, Rage 128 and Radeon chips by the "ati" driver, as is unaccelerated support for all of the others except the Mach8 and some early Mach32 chips.

Shade 08-01-2003 03:01 AM

For the Radeon 9700 (anything above 8500) Driver, you'll have to go to

www.schneider-digital.de

and pickup the FireGL 8700/8800 drivers for 4.3.0.

Make sure you have your kernel sources, and the install should go fine.

Once you've done it, it's even easier than the nVidia install ;)

-Shade

arunshivanandan 08-01-2003 05:39 AM

Winex 3.1 free download.
 
Well,winex 3.1 can be downloaded for free from this site.Also this doesnt break any licences.

TheOneAndOnlySM 12-25-2003 07:40 PM

Oh wow, i remember posting this thing long long ago... i believe i had around 10 posts and a few days of linux experience

but now, o hell ya u can game on linux! i have not gotten many to run, but they sure are enough to keep me busy, and no winex needed!
natively, i run unreal tournament and neverwinter nights
through wine i can run age of empires, warcraft3, and red alert!

currently, i will be fidling with red alert2 and hitman

all i want to say now is, WiNe FoReVeR!!

fatgod 12-27-2003 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JaseP
I have the following Native games:
FreeSpace 2

Dude, I've the full retail version of that for windows... I'd love to have another go on it, are there linux binaries or something? or did they release a linux version or something?

Can I get my windows version to run on linux? (My heart has quickened ;))


Oh, never mind :o My rush of blood is over and I've read the rest of the thread ;)


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