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Old 01-08-2012, 01:33 AM   #46
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I agree with earlier post


You could just try installing Chromium or Opera instead of using Firefox. Sometimes getting a new application is faster then trying to fix something that is already there. They should be able to import all your bookmarks from Firefox.

I run Linux Mint, which is very similar to Ubuntu. I had Firefox lock up on me so it literally wouldn't even boot up. Firefox can be "buggy" at times. I also prefer to run KDE or LXDE as my desktop. Gnome is ..... weird.... especially the Unity version. Xfce can also be buggy at times but is really quick when it works.

Try adding LXDE and Chromium to your distro. Synaptic will be able to find them. Chromium is the generic version of Google Chrome which is what it was before Google brought it.
 
Old 01-08-2012, 11:11 AM   #47
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the results of df -h is as follows:

"Filesystem size used avail use% mounted on
/dev/sda1 72G 8.4G 60G 13% /
varrun 252M 84K 252M 1% /var/run
varlock 252M 0 252M 0% /var/lock
udev 252M 76K 252M 1% /dev
devshm 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm
lrm 252M 34M 218M 14% /lib/modules/2.6.22-16-generic/volatile"


that was a workout!
Ted
 
Old 01-08-2012, 11:20 AM   #48
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You could just try installing Chromium or Opera instead of using Firefox. Sometimes getting a new application is faster then trying to fix something that is already there. They should be able to import all your bookmarks from Firefox.

I run Linux Mint, which is very similar to Ubuntu. I had Firefox lock up on me so it literally wouldn't even boot up. Firefox can be "buggy" at times. I also prefer to run KDE or LXDE as my desktop. Gnome is ..... weird.... especially the Unity version. Xfce can also be buggy at times but is really quick when it works.

Try adding LXDE and Chromium to your distro. Synaptic will be able to find them. Chromium is the generic version of Google Chrome which is what it was before Google brought it.
closest thing I found in 'synaptic manager' is "Lxdoom' and there are about 5 variations of that (e.g. lxdoom-svga, etc)

I did find 'chromium' however the computer was unable to download it- first it said "not authenticated" then it said "could not resolve 'us.arcive.ubuntu.com'" ???
don't know if this is an option but sounds a lot better than wiping the computer in order to get internet back- this is as close to winning the cigar as we have come.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:42 AM   #49
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Does the connection work?
Is the problem only with firefox?
Can you ping ?
Open a terminal and type:
Code:
ping 212.100.160.51
ping google.com
If the connection works, and the problem is only firefox:
You could remove all the add-ons
Code:
Tools => add-ons
You could try another browser, to see if this one works
Look in the menu under internet for a browser

Kind regards
 
Old 01-08-2012, 09:13 PM   #50
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Your hard drive with Ubuntu = /dev/sda1 72G 8.4G 60G 13% /


So you have plenty of useable space 60G Free :-)


Likely however not sure if Ubuntu provide you chance to re-size your existing sda1 72G partition, then create new / and /home partitions during installation.

IF not when you boot from another OS install/boot disk, so you may be able to access terminal and make partition changes needed.





## Confirm your NEW AIM is to install current OS version Ubuntu without losing data from your /home ?

## As your computer older you chose 32bit ?

## Your experience to date is Ubuntu so staying with Ubuntu ?


## Obtained an *.ISO DVD for the Ubuntu version you wish to install ?

From the Ubuntu site:
The Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop needs at least 256 MB of RAM. And to install it, you should have at least 4GB of disk space.
The Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop - Pack of 5 can be posted to you estimate US$7.79 with postage.


At the Ubuntu page you can download Ubuntu onto a CD or USB stick then run it from them, or replace your current operating system, or install and run Ubuntu into a new partition leaving your existing system there.


Using terminal commands, from your current computer, downloading likely can be done, then need create the CD or DVD or USB stick, these perhaps can be done.

Suggest find another computer or someone to download, check then burn your ISO disk, or check out Linux computer magazines, some provided ISO DVDs including for Ubuntu and other OS's.


My OS source http://software.opensuse.org/
openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso was size = 4.3 GB which self downloaded, burnt to DVD, then used the DVD to install here.

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Last edited by polpak; 01-08-2012 at 09:14 PM. Reason: typos
 
Old 01-08-2012, 10:42 PM   #51
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Does the connection work?
Is the problem only with firefox?
Can you ping ?
Open a terminal and type:
Code:
ping 212.100.160.51
ping google.com
If the connection works, and the problem is only firefox:
You could remove all the add-ons
Code:
Tools => add-ons
You could try another browser, to see if this one works
Look in the menu under internet for a browser

Kind regards
cannot 'ping' (I have no idea what I'm saying), I entered the 212... and terminal says: "Network is unreachable". I like the direction we're going here but I'm thinking something is majorly malo with the system and I'm looking at an eventual wipe 'n clean. NOt a super big deal, this is not our primary computer and there isn't too much to save.
thanks,
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:52 PM   #52
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Your hard drive with Ubuntu = /dev/sda1 72G 8.4G 60G 13% /


So you have plenty of useable space 60G Free :-)


Likely however not sure if Ubuntu provide you chance to re-size your existing sda1 72G partition, then create new / and /home partitions during installation.

IF not when you boot from another OS install/boot disk, so you may be able to access terminal and make partition changes needed.





## Confirm your NEW AIM is to install current OS version Ubuntu without losing data from your /home ?

## As your computer older you chose 32bit ?

## Your experience to date is Ubuntu so staying with Ubuntu ?


## Obtained an *.ISO DVD for the Ubuntu version you wish to install ?

From the Ubuntu site:
The Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop needs at least 256 MB of RAM. And to install it, you should have at least 4GB of disk space.
The Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop - Pack of 5 can be posted to you estimate US$7.79 with postage.


At the Ubuntu page you can download Ubuntu onto a CD or USB stick then run it from them, or replace your current operating system, or install and run Ubuntu into a new partition leaving your existing system there.


Using terminal commands, from your current computer, downloading likely can be done, then need create the CD or DVD or USB stick, these perhaps can be done.

Suggest find another computer or someone to download, check then burn your ISO disk, or check out Linux computer magazines, some provided ISO DVDs including for Ubuntu and other OS's.


My OS source http://software.opensuse.org/
openSUSE-12.1-DVD-x86_64.iso was size = 4.3 GB which self downloaded, burnt to DVD, then used the DVD to install here.

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I hear you on the "new aim" but with my computer knowledge we may be better off saving all personal stuff and losing the current system-change is good- and I didn't cry when I wiped my frigging 'Windows' OS off and got rid of the 'Trojan horse' that had been downloaded via a removable disc that my girlfriend and I popped into a computer at an internet cafe in Mex. to download some photos and then nuked our computer once we got home and tried to open the rem. disc. Some of these viruses are pretty amazing I must admit- this one made the computer run hot as in the CPU fan was running constantly and it would not let us shut it down either- had to unplug.
So, I guess 5 yrs. on Ubuntu w/out any problems is not a bad run.
the 'new aim' is to load an OS that I can access the web from and I will use a laptop to do this. Sounds like the first place to start is getting an ISO.
I am not attached to Ubuntu (seeing how it took a dump on me) but am not anti-Ubuntu either. I never did software updates- prob. my fault we're here.
Ted
 
Old 01-09-2012, 12:16 AM   #53
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Agree IMHO you will be "better off saving all personal stuff and losing the current system"

As long as losing does not mean deleting the partition with your /home on it, until after you have copied all you want into a new partition.

Question: Installing Ubuntu does it give users the chance to resize their existing partitions then create new ones ? Guess, yes, but nice to be sure :-)

Sure can with openSUSE ;-)



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Old 01-09-2012, 05:33 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by Ted Nugent View Post
closest thing I found in 'synaptic manager' is "Lxdoom' and there are about 5 variations of that (e.g. lxdoom-svga, etc)

I did find 'chromium' however the computer was unable to download it- first it said "not authenticated" then it said "could not resolve 'us.arcive.ubuntu.com'" ???
don't know if this is an option but sounds a lot better than wiping the computer in order to get internet back- this is as close to winning the cigar as we have come.
Ted
My fault. LXDE is a light weight desktop just like Gnome and KDE are, but it uses less system resources and is still more user friendly then Fluxbox or Openbox. Lubuntu is the Ubuntu with this desktop enabled by default. Synaptic can find and install the LXDE desktop. Sometimes using a light weight desktop results in more speed and greater system stability then using Gnome or KDE does because the computer doesn't have to work as hard.

Having more then one web browser besides firefox is a good idea. You don't want to have a single point of failure when it comes to getting online when you need to do so. Besides, if you are using someone else's computer, they may not even have Firefox at all but could be running something else.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 10:18 PM   #55
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Agree IMHO you will be "better off saving all personal stuff and losing the current system"

As long as losing does not mean deleting the partition with your /home on it, until after you have copied all you want into a new partition.

Question: Installing Ubuntu does it give users the chance to resize their existing partitions then create new ones ? Guess, yes, but nice to be sure :-)

Sure can with openSUSE ;-)



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hey man, what is a 'partition'? The last time we installed the new OS we wiped the computer clean- re=format. What is the process for installing the new OS without re-formating the whole shooting match?
 
Old 01-10-2012, 12:26 AM   #56
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Partitions are shown by the
Code:
fdisk -l
cmd. Basically a section of hard disk; can be a whole disk (max) or a subsection.
In sda1, sda2 notation, sda is the actual HDD, 1, 2 are the partitions of that disk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
Unless you've got odd requirements, just backup your data as prev mentioned, then do a default install (ie let the installer make the decisions like partitions) for you
 
Old 01-10-2012, 12:33 AM   #57
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If not worried about saving anything, during installation when get to partitions, chose to delete existing partitions, then let installation program create partition(s) how it wants. Which may be all in a single partition.



disk partitioning is dividing a single hard disk drive into several logical storage partitions, each treated as if they were separate physical disk drives.


IF one partition crashes, or needs be reformatted, or replaced, what saved in other partitions not effected.

Partition editing programs can be used to create, resize, delete, and manipulate these partitions on the hard disk.

Hard Drives can fail completely to, specially as age, or worked hard.

Useful IMHO to keep / root for operating system, /home and / (swaps) within separate partitions.

Like many things, each to his own :-)


Read previously of some problems with Microsoft ignoring separate partitions, treating all partitions as one single hard drive, rather than separate partitions. Not experienced yet with known to self others using Microsoft, and self only uses Linux.

Added color blue to show my usual partitions.

Code:
linux-fy2u:~ # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000b52ff

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1              63     4209029     2104483+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2   *     4209030    25189919    10490445   83  Linux
/dev/sda3        25189920   347630533   161220307   83  Linux
/dev/sda4       347631616   976773119   314570752    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5       347633664   620253183   136309760   83  Linux
/dev/sda6       620255232   976752639   178248704   83  Linux
linux-fy2u:~ #

These are :

/dev/sda1 is my Linux swap partition.
/dev/sda2 * is my / Linux openSUSE File System root partition
(the star/asterix shows this as current boot partition OR where GRUB is ?)
/dev/sda3 163 GB Linux partition, currently empty.
/dev/sda4 start of my W95 Extended Logical Drive Partition (LBA) contains other partitions or empty space.
/dev/sda5 /home within the Extended Logical Drive Partition.
/dev/sda6 183 GB withn the Extended Logical Drive Partition where I save a local copy of /home.



Currently command mount shows am only accessing sda2 and sda5 at the moment.

Need be root to access the other partitions, until need extra space only access them to quickly save data, a sort of backup, not as safe as another hard drive elsewhere, but fine day to day.

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Old 01-12-2012, 04:12 AM   #58
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partitions-pet peeves-swap files

One pet peeve that I have with Linux installers is that they always give you a swap file, even if you have 2 gigs of RAM or more.

I always custom partition my drives when doing an install and delete the swap file, which means that I get to use my entire disk.

BTW: Swap files are insecure, even if you use a Crypto-Luks partition. If you encrypt the swap file as well, it is as slow as molasses in January. If you are running off of an external USB drive, it becomes almost unusable even with a regular swap file.

Other then that, let Linux install itself as it wants, but check its work.

It is always better to upgrade the hardware to handle whatever work load you throw at it, & not have 50 different pages and applications running at once. I almost have more then 7 or 8 things happening at one time.

Therefore: Go forth and buy RAM my son!! Show no fear of Best Buy or Microcenter!!

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