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Old 03-27-2017, 03:26 PM   #1
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fedora on surface pro 3


Hello!

I have microsoft surface pro 3 with win 8.1 and got sick of it for several reasons. :-)
So I did install fedora 25 (compiz) on it. I was positively surprised with everything. Then I did a "dnf -y update" and also installed a few progs. Then decided to reboot... but after reboot the touchpad is not working anymore for the mouse movement. But still works for the left and right buttons!
I have googled since last two days, but did not find any solution. I am motivated to continue with this system, but this issue is very annoying... can someone guide me to a solution, please?

Thank you!
 
Old 03-27-2017, 08:31 PM   #2
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Welcome to LQ & Congrads on installing Fedora:-

Until you find a fix you can use a wireless mouse with a dongle.

I'm not sure how you would get the touchpad to be recognized but I did find some possible answers.

What DE are you using? Gnome? KDE? XFCE?

https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/que...-in-fedora-25/

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...71#post5680871

https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/que...hpad-settings/

Hope those links help:-

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Old 03-28-2017, 04:06 PM   #3
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Hi.

Thank you for your reply.
I am running Fedora 25 with compiz.
The strange is that after installation, the touchpad worked ok. But now, after "dnf update" and some software installation, the buttons still work, but the mouse movement does not exists. It simply does not respond to movement.
Something was modified... :-(

Regards.
 
Old 03-28-2017, 04:13 PM   #4
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Hi.

Thank you for your reply.
I am running Fedora 25 with compiz.
The strange is that after installation, the touchpad worked ok. But now, after "dnf update" and some software installation, the buttons still work, but the mouse movement does not exists. It simply does not respond to movement.
Something was modified... :-(

Regards.
Hi neurotoxin .. I've been dual-booting Windows 10 and Arch Linux on my Surface Pro 3 for the last 18 months or so. It's best to know what you're modifying when making any changes - support for some features on the SP3 are still only available via kernel patches (multitouch support on Type Cover), but simple usage of the touchpad should be there. It works best with libinput as opposed to synaptics.

I am unfamiliar with Fedora. Could you specify :

- what kernel you are running ?
- are you using libinput ?

... We'll go from there ...
 
Old 03-28-2017, 04:54 PM   #5
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Hi Rickkkk,

I believe it is 4.9.14-200.fc25.x86_64
How can I check if it is libinput?

thanks.
 
Old 03-28-2017, 05:06 PM   #6
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Hi Rickkkk,

I believe it is 4.9.14-200.fc25.x86_64
How can I check if it is libinput?

thanks.
Hey neurotoxin .. Again, I apologize, but I am unfamiliar with Fedora. You would use your package manager's query command, appended with something like: | grep libinput. For instance, with Arch Linux, the command with the pacman package manager would be:

pacman -Q | grep libinput

... The package required for X is xf86-input-libinput in Arch - probably similar in other distros.

That said, Fedora / Compiz might have some kind of GUI to check stuff like this - you could also try that if it exists. Or if Fedora has some kind of online wiki like Arch does, you might find some useful information there.

Also, version 4.11 of the kernel is supposed to include out-of-the-box support for the SP3 Type Cover. So if you're able to wait and upgrade to that when it is released, you may be set that way.

Let us know how you do !

Last edited by Rickkkk; 03-28-2017 at 05:08 PM.
 
Old 03-28-2017, 05:17 PM   #7
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Hi Rickkkk,

I believe it is 4.9.14-200.fc25.x86_64
How can I check if it is libinput?

thanks.
I think yum search libinput.
 
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Old 03-28-2017, 05:24 PM   #8
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Well, checking the xorg.log it seams so...

$ grep -e libinput /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[ 6.691] (**) Video Bus: Applying InputClass "libinput keyboard catchall"
[ 6.726] (**) Surface Pro 3/4 Buttons: Applying InputClass "libinput keyboard catchall"
[ 6.730] (**) Microsoft Surface Type Cover: Applying InputClass "libinput pointer catchall"
[ 6.730] (**) Microsoft Surface Type Cover: Applying InputClass "libinput keyboard catchall"
[ 6.732] (**) Microsoft LifeCam Front: Applying InputClass "libinput keyboard catchall"
[ 6.733] (**) Microsoft LifeCam Rear: Applying InputClass "libinput keyboard catchall"
[ 6.735] (**) NTRG0001:01 1B96:1B05 Pen: Applying InputClass "libinput tablet catchall"
[ 6.735] (**) NTRG0001:01 1B96:1B05 Pen: Applying InputClass "libinput tablet catchall"
[ 6.735] (**) NTRG0001:01 1B96:1B05 Pen: Applying InputClass "libinput tablet catchall"
[ 6.735] (**) NTRG0001:01 1B96:1B05 Pen: Applying InputClass "libinput tablet catchall"
[ 6.735] (**) NTRG0001:01 1B96:1B05 Pen: Applying InputClass "libinput tablet catchall"
[ 6.735] (**) NTRG0001:01 1B96:1B05 Pen: Applying InputClass "libinput tablet catchall"
[ 6.800] (**) NTRG0001:01 1B96:1B05: Applying InputClass "libinput touchscreen catchall"
 
Old 03-28-2017, 06:06 PM   #9
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Well, checking the xorg.log it seams so...
..
Good. Now check and see if you have the proper config files for X. Usually these would be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

As an example, this is what I have for my SP3, in a file I created named:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-rick-surfacepro3-libinput.conf :

Code:
Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "SP3-keyboard"
        MatchIsKeyboard "on"
        Driver "libinput"
        Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca"
	Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
EndSection

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "SP3-touchpad"
        MatchIsTouchpad "on"
        Driver "libinput"
        Option "Tapping" "on"
EndSection
 
Old 03-29-2017, 03:02 PM   #10
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Great!! It works!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!
 
Old 03-29-2017, 04:44 PM   #11
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Great!! It works!!

THANK YOU!!!!!!
Good news - you're very welcome - glad you're set. Enjoy linux on your SP3 .. :-)

Rick

P.S.: keep an eye out for improvements apparently coming in kernel 4.11 - especially the previously-mentioned multitouch functionality ... ;-)

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Old 03-29-2017, 09:06 PM   #12
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Glad to hear it works!

Enjoy Fedora:-
 
Old 03-31-2017, 02:48 AM   #13
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Good news - you're very welcome - glad you're set. Enjoy linux on your SP3 .. :-)
Just a FYI - looks like Fedora has enabled as modules in 4.11
Code:
CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_SURFACE3_SPI=m
CONFIG_SURFACE3_WMI=m
CONFIG_SURFACE_PRO3_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_SURFACE_3_BUTTON=m
4.11.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc27.x86_64 - grep'd for "surface"
 
Old 03-31-2017, 12:58 PM   #14
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Just a FYI - looks like Fedora has enabled as modules in 4.11
Code:
CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_SURFACE3_SPI=m
CONFIG_SURFACE3_WMI=m
CONFIG_SURFACE_PRO3_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_SURFACE_3_BUTTON=m
4.11.0-0.rc4.git0.1.fc27.x86_64 - grep'd for "surface"
... Most encouraging .. thx syg00. Hopefully the multitouch functionality of the TypeCover touchpad is also mainstreamed.

Cheers all :-)
 
  


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