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Old 06-27-2005, 11:25 PM   #16
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I was succesfully burn CDs with four Fedora Core iso image. Nero 6 is a great application to work with.

Thanks for your support, however I would appreciate getting your continued support as I go through the whole installation procedure.

Thanks
 
Old 06-28-2005, 06:37 AM   #17
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Congratulations, Rafiqul!!!

You got those Cds successfully burned, you should start your Fedora Core 4 installation now. Let me know know if you need further help. The modern Linux installation is easy enough, so I don't think you will need help that much.

I'm still downloading Disc-3. Right now the progress is only 49%, you know we use the slowest broadband internet connection in the world. Every single ISO image takes about 45+ hours to download, which is slower than a 56K dial-up internet connection!!! Can you imagine that???

Wish you all the best.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 09:42 AM   #18
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http://www.snapfiles.com/download/dlcdburnerxp.html download this free CD utility to burn iso files if you dont want to pay for nero. Nero is a powerful package, but not worth it if you are just going to burn the odd iso files now and again. up to you though. i find it easy to use.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 11:11 PM   #19
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Thanks.
Sorry to hear that it is taking so long to download a single iso file. I know it must be very frustrating for you.

I have not started the install process yet, I am still trying to figure out which way I should go. As I said it before, I actually have following Hard Disk partitions:

1. Partition (Not Named), FAT, Healthy (EISA Configuration), 30 MB free ot of 31 MB
2. Partition C , NTFS, Healthy, 31 GB free out of 37.24 GB

I am not sure what is used in above Partiion 1. However, 2nd partition looks have a lot of unused space.

Here is what I am thinking (pls point me out , if I am right, or should be corrected):

1. Shrinking The Partition C, and get about 10 GB~ 15 GB of space for Linux.
2. Create another partition of 10 ~ 15 GB of Linux of FAT ? What I can do to the above partition 1, any idea ?
Can I do above using XP ? before i get my Partition Magic Software ?

or, Reinstall Windows XP, while reinstalling XP I may have opportunity to create above partitions ...You can give me some idea about XP installation, how to create partition, and what type ?

Thanks for your response...
 
Old 06-29-2005, 05:32 AM   #20
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Well Rafiqul,

Your partition 1 is looking ... I don't know!!! Only just 31 MB ? Is it a partition or what?

If I were you, I would go for a fresh installation of both Windows and Linux.

If you want to shrink your drive C: (which is a NTFS partition as you mentioned above) to get space for Linux, you must use the Partition Magic software. Because it is the only known software, which can handle NTFS partitions. I never used that software, so I'm unable to give you any information about it.

I'm a bit busy right now, I'll try to give you some helpful information about fresh installation for Windows and Linux a few hours later.

Last edited by shuvorim; 06-29-2005 at 05:36 AM.
 
Old 06-29-2005, 11:27 AM   #21
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Rafiqul,

If you want to keep your existing Windows XP installation, shrink your NTFS partition with Partition Magic. Then follow the instruction as I discussed above. Fedora Core 4 supports the Anaconda installer in Bangla, so you can easily install it in full Bangla, except you will have to enter your 'root' password in English.

Fresh Installation:

Backup all your necessary data into some other media, like CD/DVD/Flash Drive etc. You are going to lose all the data from your current hard drive.

1. Insert the 'Windows XP' rebootable CD/DVD into your CD/DVD rom drive and reboot your machine.

2. When the message 'Press any key to boot from the CD/DVD rom...' appears, press any key.

3. Windows will load some necessary files for installation.

4. After it completed it's tasks, it will give your 3 options.

5. Choose the second one, that means press 'R' to repair.

6. Wait some seconds, a command line will ask you for the Administrator's password.

7. Enter the password, you will get a prompt something like "C:\WINDOWS>".

8. Type 'DISKPART', press Enter.

9. The Diskpart utility will show your current partitions. Select the bottom partition (which should be D: drive, as you mentioned) first with down arrow, press 'D' to delete, and again 'L' to confirm.

10. Now select the main partition (which should be C: drive, as you mentioned), press 'D', press 'Enter' for the warning message, press 'L' to confirm.

11. Now you have all free space to create your partitions. You mentioned you have a hard drive with around 38 GB of capacity.

12. You can create 2 drives (20GB for C: and 7GB for D for Windows to use, and leave the unused space for Linux.

13. Press 'C' to create partition, enter your desired space for C: drive in megabyes.

14. From the main screen, select the free space and press 'C' to create another partition, enter your desired space for D: drive in megabyes.

15. Leave the unused free space as it is for Linux to use. Now reboot your pc and apply the same procedure upto STEP NO. 4, then choose the first option (press Enter to install Windows XP).

16. Press 'F8' to agree with the license agreement.

17. Select drive C: for your Windows XP installation.

18. Press 'Enter'. It will now complain that the drive is not formatted and ask you to format your partition. Choose NTFS for your formatting option.

19. After formatting your drive C:, the setup will continue installing Windows XP and reboot your PC aumatically. In the middle of the setup, it' installation wizard will ask a few questions (your name, company, Windows XP serial no, time zone, network config etc).

20. Now your Windows XP installation is complete, you can login to Windows XP and format the D: drive by right clicking on it. From the popup menu, choose format and FAT32 as the file system (if you choose FAT32 file system, Linux can access it very easily).

21. Now insert the 'Fedora Core 4' rebootable CD/DVD into your CD/DVD rom drive and reboot your machine.

22. In the installation prompt, simply press 'Enter' for a graphical installation.

23. FC4 will now want to check your media for integrity. To skip this step, press 'OK', then 'Eject Media', insert the disc again, select 'Continue' and press 'Enter'.

24. A few minutes later, the graphical installation will launch. You can proceed from there without any help. It's easier than a Windows installation!!!

** Tips: Don't forget to choose 'Automatically partition" -> "Keep all partitions and use existing free space".
 
Old 06-29-2005, 09:46 PM   #22
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thanks, shuvorim

Thank you for that most informative discussion. Since shuvorim has been so helpful I would like to ask a related question.

I would like to dual boot WinXP and FC4. I am a long time user of Win and FC3, but thought I would install FC4 when I had to get a new motherboard ( giga-byte GA-K8NSC with AMD 64 processor ) because the old one died. I swapped in the hard drives, and windows works fine. I installed FC4 to the second hard disk, specifying the advanced options and installing grub as the boot loader on the second drive. Now, of course, I can't boot to the second drive where FC4 is because my new motherboard does not support booting to any other hard drive ( I used to be able to hit F8 and get a list of boot options).

So, I used the rescue disk and made

dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=bootsec.lnx bs=512 count=1

and transferred bootsec.lnx to the root directory of windows ( which has been e:, for some reason)

I added this line to boot.ini

e:bootsec.lnx="Fedora Core 4"

Now I get a prompt at bootup to pick between XP and FC4. When I pick XP, everything starts normally. When I pick FC4, the system reboots. I've done a bit of web searching, and I can't figure what I've done wrong.

fdisk shows 2 disks (hda and hdb) and 2 bootable partitions ( hda1 and hdb1 ). I tried reinstalling with

grub-install /dev/hdb

But this didn't change anything.

I'm happy to continue using ntldr if I can get it to work. Failing that, I would like to get at least a floppy or CD as a boot disk so I can finish installation!

thanks
 
Old 06-29-2005, 11:16 PM   #23
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Excellent !!! Thank you shuvorim ! I am yet to receive my Partition Magic. I will be out of state starting from tomorrow until July 4th, and I know I have a business trip on July 5th to East Coast. So I am afraid I can do this before 2nd week of July, in the mean time I expect to receive my Partition Magic software (I was the highest bidder in Ebay ).

Could I get your email address ? We could exchange something other than this forum, and for that email would be the best way to communicate. I would however like to continue this thread until I am done with my FC4/XP project at home.

I hope to continue chatting with you in the mean time.

Thanks
Rafi
 
Old 06-30-2005, 03:43 PM   #24
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Hi Richard,

Sorry for the delay. I was a bit busy.

Your primary/master partition must be drive C:

Whether you installed Windows on drive E: or somewhere else, it will always leave some system files on drive C: (such as "autoexec.bat", "ntldr", "config.sys", "boot.ini" etc). So, I guess your "boot.ini" file is on your drive C:, is that right? You should copy the "bootsec.lnx" to drive C: instead of drive E:

Now the line in "boot.ini" file should something like:
C:\bootsec.lnx="Fedora Core 4"

(why it is "bootsec.lnx", not "boot.lnx")???
If it didn't work, I'm sorry I haven't got another idea !!!

Last edited by shuvorim; 06-30-2005 at 03:46 PM.
 
Old 06-30-2005, 03:51 PM   #25
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Rafiqul, I sent you an email with my email addresses.
 
Old 07-04-2005, 11:02 AM   #26
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Dear Rafiqul,

I'm afraid I will not able to continue here for the next few days. If you need help installing Fedora Core 4 with Windows, here you can find a helpful guide.

Windows XP and Fedora Core 4 - Dual booting step by step

Wish you good luck. Bye.

Last edited by shuvorim; 09-30-2005 at 03:38 PM.
 
Old 07-05-2005, 12:09 PM   #27
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Hello,

I am back from vacation. I got my Partition magic 8.0 software, and resized my Hard Disk as follows:


/dev/sb1 20 GB (XP) (NTFS)
/dev/sb2 -->boot (ext3)
/dev/sb3 -->/ (ext3)
(may be extended with swap space)

I have selected Server Installation, and possible all packages , taking too long to install...Looks like I can finish the install tonight.
At the first FC4 Disc, I was asked to choose to select the default partition, I chose it to be XP. I dont know if that is enough to make my system as dual boot, or will I have to do anything more ??

I will update any activity to this thread, so that other people can have comments also.

Thanks
Rafi
 
Old 07-05-2005, 06:00 PM   #28
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Thank you for your replies.

I have tried booting both ways, from WinXP with boot.ini modifiations and from FC4 with grub. I'm pretty sure I had everything done right, as confirmed by shuvorim's very nice web page (good job!)

I was a little surprised when I upgraded to WinXP and my boot disk turned out to be e: ( not the usual c: ). There wasn't even a c: drive until I put in a zip disk. Everything seems to have been working OK, until I tried to make a dual boot, as describe above. I think it happened because I put in two hard disks, but used only one ( the other was for FC3, which I used until my MB crash). I suspect if I do this [URL=http://http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q223188[/URL] then I will be closer. Cloning drives temporarily and scattering backups on the home network, wish me luck.
 
Old 07-07-2005, 06:46 AM   #29
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Hi guys,

I decided to drop Fedora Core from my machine. In my system, the both Windows XP and Windows 2003 Enterprise Server performs well and at a great speed (I installed 35/40 programs in each operating system). There are Visual Studio 6 (Full), Visual Studio .NET 2003, Photoshop 7, McAfee 9, Adobe Reader 7, Oracle 9i, Office XP, Macromedia Flash/Dreamweaver/Fireworks and lots of other programs installed in Windows XP. Still it performs much faster than Fedora Core 4!!!

I stopped almost all services in Fedora Core 4, but it didn't work. By changing the Clear Looks theme to the previous Blue Curve theme gives me some speed though.

The .NET technology is growing popular day by day, it is the most popular technology in our country. I can always use Python/Ruby/Tcl/Expect/PHP/Perl in Windows, but I can not use C#/J#/VB/ASP.NET/SQL Server in Linux. It will be better to stick with Windows, and I do not think Linux will ever capture the Desktop PC market. Linux is best for server purposes only.

However, it is the matter of everyone's personal choice. I am not using Linux for years and I only used RED HAT distributions. Never tested other distributions, and I do not want to.

Thank you Rafiqul and Richard, for your kind support. It was nice talking with you guys in this forum. Have a great time. Good bye.
 
Old 07-07-2005, 03:54 PM   #30
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Have fun! Your right, windose has more to offer then linux. Us guys over here at linux sure do miss all of those viruses, worms, adware and spyware, but oh well, we can't have everything can we. Bye, Bye!

Wayne
 
  


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