cruisn round the new 'not' winblows enviro chekn the cool scenery even tho I gots an old ride... tweakn the w/m - enlite when she fa-fa-froze up on me... hmmm tryn to get out n push but no good... screen save works with pw to get back to a frozen w/m - wrinkles brow, scratches head, hmmm...

Anyone know how to kill this w/m and get to a term without hard booting?

Yes I own more than 1 machine, doesn't evry1?

anyway, configured the damn thing by the which said to load w/m by default - only time i c a xterm is when i mash a menu button for a window.

2nd question... when running normally i can logout but only to a gui login not the command level... how can i quit the xwindows gui interface after it's already loaded? - Q2a. Is there a way without reconfiguring?

thanx

Try ctrl+alt+f1 (f1-f6 are terminal window logon screens for me). You can then log on as root or your user. To just restart X you can press ctrl+alt+backspace.

Thanks for the info!!

I went to the term win and tried: shutdown -r 00:00
... root info disapeared and left a blinking cursor...
no response. Appears to be hanging.

Normally the ctrl+alt+backspace resets my video display rate or resolution to another level... so I didn't try it first.

System is not shuting down...

PS -
Distribution: RedHat 6.0 - Publishers Edition
Book: 'Mastering Linux - Premium Edition
Publisher: Sybex
Author: Arman Danesh

i think you've mixed up control -alt -backspace
with control-alt + and - , but there is a setting in the
xfree config file that says whether or not to allow
control alt backspace exiting.

If it hangs after issuing the shutdown command, try pressing return, or up and then return to repeat the command, then maybe down is still no progress. Or maybe move the mouse to trip the X server.

Thanks guys for the input...
FYI - the ctrl+alt+F# key trick worked to get me to the command level.
I tried killing the crashed server but a file was locked... rm'd the file at the systems sugestion... then tried the 'shutdown' cmd at the command prompt... (outside of the Xwin - Gnome/Enlightenment enviro since this is what crashed.)
thats when nothing happend - return - up and return - no use.
Mouse? at the cmd prompt? really... that didn't do anything either...

Well, anyway I did learn somethings here, thanks again for everyone's input... I hard rebooted and the system recovered ok on it's own.

I'm going camping now (w/o phones or computers) ... everyone have a great holiday weekend! - I will