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Old 12-17-2011, 07:42 AM   #1
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Dont know what to do re Fedora Upgrade

I have fedora 14 on my desktop and laptop. Love it. Do a daily update. When I upgraded from 13 to 14 I neeeded to reinstall my openoffice suite since there was an incompatibioity between it and the distro - but fortunately it went well. It would be a disaster for me to go to 16 and find that openoffice no longer worked, since I've got tons of important legal material in open office files. So I'm nervous.

I updated my wifes desktop to fedora 16. It uses a newer gnome - no obvioius benefit - maybe change for changes sake? Maybe it does games better. I dont do games.

It has a disbenefit - her Kindle for PC no longer works. And I'm getting old and tired and frustrated at the idea of debugging that issue.

So I have not accepted the regular message to my computer to upgrade to Fedora 16. From the experience with my wifes computer, I see that if I do, then the old distrubition will disappear. i.e. if I interupt grub on her machine, fedora 14 is no longer there.

Does someone have some wise thoughts?

I could do a full disk copy, but that is not as easy as it used to be due to the virtual disk software.


Old 12-17-2011, 07:59 AM   #2
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You could do a dual boot of 16 and 14, and install 16 on a new partition
Old 12-17-2011, 12:42 PM   #3
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fedora no longer uses "openoffice" they moved to the NOT Oracle , then soon to be CLOSED source OO
to the OPEN Libre Office

also fedora 16 is WAY WAY different than fedora 14
WAY to many things changed for a upgrade to work

they are not compatible

back up data
reformat the drive to ext4 and enlarge the "/boot" partition -- it needs to be larger than fedora 14's

do not save your /home folder ( except for a few settings NONE of the gnome2 files will work in gnome3 )
the /mozilla file is an exception that will transfer.

i moved off fedora a few years back to get off the " fedora roller coaster" of a new install EVERY 6 months

OpenSUSE has a bit of a longer life cycle

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Old 12-17-2011, 12:54 PM   #4
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You shouldn't have any problems with OpenOffice or LibreOffice. The odt file structure is an official ISO standard and won't change.

The problem for us Fedora 14 users is that support is about to end: no more updates and no more security patches. You could argue that any serious security problems are likely to have been found in the last year. I took that line and stuck with Fedora 10, but I had to switch to 14 when I found I couldn't read recent pdf files created on a Macintosh and there was no simple alternative solution. I'm afraid that change is inevitable.

I was just about to switch to CentOS for a longer support period, but a dummy run showed their version of Wine wont run a program that's absolutely essential. Your best bet is probably to create a small partition and try Fedora 16 on it as I did CentOS. If you want something less changeable, you might consider CentOS; Mepis, Salix, or Vector SOHO (if you don't mind KDE); or Salix, SalineOS, or Vector Standard (with Xfce).
Old 12-17-2011, 01:10 PM   #5
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Akuthia, John and David
Thanks for your thoughts - Sounds worse than I had realized

Back in the day I created a turn key solution based on DEC's rsx11m
Large real time hotel & condo & casino management system - marketed worldwide thru my distributors
Only app that ran on the hardware was my system
DEC would try to sell my customers op sys upgrades
My advice - my stuff is 100% solid on the version of rsx that I delivered - leave it alone

I think I'll take your current advice plus my prior advice and leave my Fedora14 alone

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The thing about Fedora is that it's RedHat's R&D distro, is not guaranteed to be stable, requires a new install for each version and has a high turnover of versions (approx every year).
It is not supposed to be used for serious work.

For serious work (as you are using it), switch to Centos (free version of RHEL), updates in place for approx 5-7 years.
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Chris - thanks so much - sounds like excellent advice - Dick


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