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Old 11-30-2019, 08:44 AM   #1
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Does thunderbird have its own MTA


I'm using Debian 10. I disable exim4.service but am still able to send and recieve email via Thunderbird.
Why is this, does Thunderbird have its own MTA?

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Old 11-30-2019, 08:54 AM   #2
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Programs like thunderbird and sylpheed are all-in-ones. Not very Unix-like! They speak smtp and pop3 so they can do their own mail transport.
 
Old 12-03-2019, 07:03 PM   #3
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No, Thunderbird is using whatever email service you set it up with. Do you have an email service such as Gmail, Yahoo, etc?
 
Old 12-04-2019, 06:46 AM   #4
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No, Thunderbird is using whatever email service you set it up with. Do you have an email service such as Gmail, Yahoo, etc?
Yes, I have Gmail and I used to have an email address provided by my ISP, which they pulled earlier this year. I don't actually use thunderbird so it may work differently to the email programs I know about like sylpheed and claws. With those, you configure them by entering the addresses of the email provider's smtp and pop3 servers and the username and password that they expect, and the program sends smtp and pop3 messages to those servers. You can actually see them if you choose to view the connection log.
 
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Yes, I have Gmail and I used to have an email address provided by my ISP, which they pulled earlier this year. I don't actually use thunderbird so it may work differently to the email programs I know about like sylpheed and claws. With those, you configure them by entering the addresses of the email provider's smtp and pop3 servers and the username and password that they expect, and the program sends smtp and pop3 messages to those servers. You can actually see them if you choose to view the connection log.
Thunderbird works in the same way.
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 07:36 AM   #6
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So how does that differ from what a mail transport agent does?
 
Old 12-04-2019, 09:30 AM   #7
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Good point, I think it's just all in one instead of having to have sendmail, fetchmail, then a viewer like mutt. It's just using the ISPs IMAP, SMTP or POP servers. As for OPs question, I was trying to illustrate it has nothing to do with or is not affected by the presence or absence of another MTA such as exim, fetchmail, etc.
 
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I'm using Debian 10. I disable exim4.service but am still able to send and recieve email via Thunderbird.
Why is this, does Thunderbird have its own MTA?

Fred.
Not that I'm aware of.

What do you have setup in your "Account settings -> Server settings" dialog? I'm guessing that it's the IP address (or FQDN) of whatever service is handling your inbound email. In my case, that field is filled in with the IP address of my LAN's IMAP server.

Everything I've ever seen about T-bird is that it's a mail user agent (MUA). I can't recall ever seeing MTA used to describe it.

HTH...
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:26 PM   #9
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Good point, I think it's just all in one instead of having to have sendmail, fetchmail, then a viewer like mutt. It's just using the ISPs IMAP, SMTP or POP servers. As for OPs question, I was trying to illustrate it has nothing to do with or is not affected by the presence or absence of another MTA such as exim, fetchmail, etc.
Absolutly!
sendmail is a Mail Transport Agent (MTA) often called a "(e)mail server" Others are postfix, qmail...
fetchmail is a Mail Delivery Agent (MDA)
mutt is a Mail User Agent (MUA) an "email client" Others are pine, elm, Thunderbird, Outlook, KMail, iOS mail...

I use Thunderbird to connect to eight different email accounts on four different servers.

The OP needs to look at the settings as sevendogsbsd and rnturn asked

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