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Old 10-26-2005, 02:42 PM   #16
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Vector Versions


Hi,

If you navigate here;

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...torlinux/docs/

there are links to comparative tables which gives the specs & requirements
of the previous Vector Linux releases, and here;

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...s/vectorlinux/

you can download all those previous releases.

From your laptop specs it looks like VL 2.5 to 3.2 is about right.



HTH,

Paul Hardy
 
Old 11-09-2005, 01:12 AM   #17
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Sorry never got Vector running. The Newest Vector wouldn't fit and when I found the one that looked like it would be perfect the cd didn't boot which is weird because every other distro I tried at least booted to the install. Weird
 
Old 11-09-2005, 02:45 AM   #18
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Vector 5.1 needs 950 meg of space apparently
4.3 needs 850 MB of hard disc space
So you do not have enough space indeed for those versions

Another strip down http://www.vectorlinux.50megs.com/
(I have never tried)

If you go for puppy linux (but you may say it is like dsl)
you probably will need the framebuffer version

Somebody said beatrix. I also read good things about it
 
Old 11-09-2005, 04:32 AM   #19
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Though I would vote for Slackware myself, maybe a Debian base-install would be useful, too. Then you could apt-get your way to a sensible system afterwards and trim the services to eat as little RAM as possible.
I used to run Slackware and Vector on a 400 MHz box with 32 MB RAM, bit I did not have your HD limitations.
 
Old 11-09-2005, 08:51 PM   #20
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Quote:
Originally posted by OSourceDiplomat
Though I would vote for Slackware myself, maybe a Debian base-install would be useful, too. Then you could apt-get your way to a sensible system afterwards and trim the services to eat as little RAM as possible.
I used to run Slackware and Vector on a 400 MHz box with 32 MB RAM, bit I did not have your HD limitations.

I agree I would run slackware myself and I do, my slack machine is a 333Mhz 192mb RAM and a 40gb hard disk. I have no problem with slack on slow machines, heck win XP doesn't even have a prob on this machine. However, the 40gb hd definetly helps in this situation.
 
Old 11-10-2005, 03:31 AM   #21
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I clearly felt back then that the RAM was the primary limitation. I upgraded it to 160 MB and it went much more smoothly.
The problem in the box here would be a very limited potential for swapping.

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Old 11-10-2005, 05:49 AM   #22
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How about gentoo, i know a couple of guys with limited space
that would swear by it.

http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml

It's supposed to be highly customable from the kernel and upwards,
and as you seem to know your linux i think you would like it.

Last edited by yoron; 11-10-2005 at 05:58 AM.
 
Old 11-11-2005, 02:51 AM   #23
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How about gentoo, i know a couple of guys with limited space that would swear by it.

http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml

It's supposed to be highly customable from the kernel and upwards,
and as you seem to know your linux i think you would like it.
For as much as I do know about linux, I must admit I have never used a source based distro, and it intimidates me a little bit. But just a curious question on this topic. Wouldn't all the dependencies and development packages I need wouldn't that take up all my hard drive space alone?
 
Old 11-11-2005, 02:54 AM   #24
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Oh wait, I may have been mistaken, I thought gentoo was a source based distro put apparently they do have a package system. I'll take a little further look into it, thanks.
 
Old 11-11-2005, 03:09 AM   #25
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nymusicman, I am still following this because I wonder
what the alternative is if one does not want DSL, and cannot
install vector.

Personaly I am a bit in your situation looking to know
what can be installed on HD of say less than 800 Mo
(but not a laptop).

I am not advanced enough (or do not have the time) to learn, compile
and go dor Gentoo (even if I understand as well that it also comes
with packages). Further when I help people who wants to install
linux I cannot make them start with gentoo, can I?

Anyway, not dsl, not vector, my searches comes to these 2
which needs more investigation, I did not have time to try,
and am not sure about the minimum footprint they take
frugalware
PClinuxOS

The key being that I want an installation not more complicated
than say slackware, but most importantly the distro need to
have a light weight desktop manager.
You said you did not mind an old distro. I see your point.
I just wonder if still there is not a modern distro that still fit
the main limitation, here the HD size, and no KDE, no gnome.
 
Old 11-11-2005, 03:25 AM   #26
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I tried Frugalware, but it was actually quite demanding. I never got to like it, compared to Slackware.
Gentoo requires some space for compiling. Still, it is not too difficult to install - the Gentoo handbook is a brilliant piece of documentation.

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Old 11-11-2005, 08:18 AM   #27
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went on distrowatch and tryed to find some ideas
Morphix Light (debian based) LightGUI or IcewmGUI
Pentium 1 75MHz - 70M Ram - Runs a little slow

Footprint not found, but iso is only ~ 250 Mo

http://www.morphix.org/manual/how_to...tallingMorphix

Also distrowatch has a old computer search tick box.
This is my biased selection of ideas to try when I have time:

Knoppix based, so maybe can be fully installed
http://www.antesis.org/index.php?lang=en

DeLi Linux
DeLi Linux is a Linux distribution for old computers, from 486 to Pentium MMX 166 or so. It's focused on desktop usage. It includes email clients, a graphical Web browser, an office package with word processor and spreadsheet, etc. A full install, including XFree86 and development tools, needs no more than 300 MB of harddisk space.

7. P!tux Linux
P!tux Linux is an operating system of the Linux family, based on Slackware Linux distribution and on kernel 2.2.x. It can be installed both on an ext2 filesystem (on a dedicated partition) or on a DOS filesystem (as a loopback device). It can be installed from DOS, Linux, in umsdos mode or via FTP. Basic installation requires a 486 PC with 8 MB RAM and 105 MB minimum hard disk space. During the installation another 150 MB will be used.

9. STX Linux
STX Linux is a lightweight Debian-based installation and live CD, using the Equinox Desktop Environment. It is especially suited to be installed on older and low-specification computers.


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Old 11-11-2005, 09:31 AM   #28
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Hi

Just dropping my opinion..

As said many times : Slackware. And as said somewhere in the thread : Puppy.

I use Debian for all PC's but I used to have Slackware on a old Compaq laptop, it was stripped of everything but the needed and was a total of 248 MB if I recall correctly. This was with no GUI, but still... and saying again : Puppy !! (never saw that old pc move so fast) ...
 
Old 11-11-2005, 03:57 PM   #29
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Yeah, i like Slackware to, for now i'm taking a ride with Mandrake/Mandriva 2006 optimized for Pentium's. But i don't really feel in controll over it. Even though it's a very nice distro that seems both well thought out and quite fast.

As i'm using a 600Mhz laptop, firewire dvd, IR keyboard, usbmouse,with TransMeta cpu i want a system that only contain the most necessary drivers etc. I know, this sounds like a wet geekdream. And if i only could get it up to speed

Usually i try to stay with more 'tried' hardware,
but as my brother gave me this machine to play with....

As i didn't have a burner i decided to install via floppy and downloaded ISO:s on my vfat.

I first tried to install slackware via it's three (!) floppys... They didn't load, so in the end i gave up on Slackware. The same goes for Gentoo, i couldn't find an option for installing downloaded ISO:s via a boot floppy. Things had truly changed since i last tried linux.

Last time i installed SlackWare i just needed one floppy?.

The thing is, PaceBlade came with XP, which freaks me out. I could have enjoyed W98 but XP is just to slow and downright stupid, and as they only made drivers for XP to it...

Ahh Linux

Deem of my surprise when i found out that it's almost impossible to find a distribution under one GB on my HD. It made me realise that if i wanted to have what i would like. i would have to build it from the ground up. But my mandrake works for now, i use fluxbox and Icewm which are nice.

Never mind, i'm also (still and 4ever) looking for my ideal Linux.
But: with a kick ass GUI

Last edited by yoron; 11-11-2005 at 04:46 PM.
 
Old 11-13-2005, 01:39 AM   #30
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Quote:
Originally posted by Emmanuel_uk
went on distrowatch and tryed to find some ideas
Morphix Light (debian based) LightGUI or IcewmGUI
Pentium 1 75MHz - 70M Ram - Runs a little slow

Footprint not found, but iso is only ~ 250 Mo

http://www.morphix.org/manual/how_to...tallingMorphix

Also distrowatch has a old computer search tick box.
This is my biased selection of ideas to try when I have time:

Knoppix based, so maybe can be fully installed
http://www.antesis.org/index.php?lang=en

DeLi Linux
DeLi Linux is a Linux distribution for old computers, from 486 to Pentium MMX 166 or so. It's focused on desktop usage. It includes email clients, a graphical Web browser, an office package with word processor and spreadsheet, etc. A full install, including XFree86 and development tools, needs no more than 300 MB of harddisk space.

7. P!tux Linux
P!tux Linux is an operating system of the Linux family, based on Slackware Linux distribution and on kernel 2.2.x. It can be installed both on an ext2 filesystem (on a dedicated partition) or on a DOS filesystem (as a loopback device). It can be installed from DOS, Linux, in umsdos mode or via FTP. Basic installation requires a 486 PC with 8 MB RAM and 105 MB minimum hard disk space. During the installation another 150 MB will be used.

9. STX Linux
STX Linux is a lightweight Debian-based installation and live CD, using the Equinox Desktop Environment. It is especially suited to be installed on older and low-specification computers.
I would like to thank you for digging in and doing your homework. Hopefully one of these will do some good. I had no idea so many people were interested in this same topic. Hard Drives less than a gig are soooo old, the only reason my laptop has it was because the 2 gig it came with died and this is what I had to replace it. But if this forum helps more people than just me, more power to it.
 
  


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