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Old 02-01-2014, 10:16 PM   #1
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Dish 722


I have a lot of good movies stored on my dish 722 rcvr. how can I transfer them to my computer with windows XP?
 
Old 02-01-2014, 10:31 PM   #2
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Welcome to LQ!

You probably can connect a network cable to it and into your router and then access the data on it and transfer to your computer, look at the back of it and see what type of connections it have.

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Old 02-01-2014, 11:12 PM   #3
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How would I do this if I were to transfer the movies to an external HDD first and then to the computer. I'm an old man and not the brightest star in the heavens so I'm not to savy on complicated computer jargon. Thanks for the help
 
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Ok here a few things i found out about the 722 rcvr:

Careful with this one it reformats your external HDD:
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Dish network uses personally designed encryption software. Because shows are copyrighted dish does not allow you to load them to your computer. You can plug in an external hard drive to your 722 and back shows up, but it re-formats your hard drive so that itís encrypted on that as well. There are instructions on the internet to remove your hard drive from the inside of the receiver, connect it to your computer using an enclosure and then moving the video files from the hard drive to your computer. Doing it that way will give you the video files to burn, but will void your warranty and get you a fine from dish if caught.
The best thing to do Is connect a DVD burner to the video output of the 722 and burn them that way.
Here some more info:
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As for now the 722 is still using the same Kernal (yes open source Kernal) as a 625 etc, it should work the same, except there is a bit of an issue, PVR Explorer looks for stored media on the actual DVR Reciever- it will typically have no problem reading of the HDD inside the rcvr, but recently there has been a few things you'll have to consider for the differences in the supported rcvrs

1. there will be a higher encryption thats added because the harddrive is easier to access the recordings, There is also more support for DRM and HDCP thats been added due to recent requirement by the Media companies and FCC. because its either HD content and the recent DVR's are all Mpeg-2 and with the HD recievers there all Mpeg-4 so the type of encryption is swithed too.
2. part of the new encryption also has a tag for the HDD when it gets formated by the receiver because it limits how many other DVRs can be connected to that harddrive before it Formats it again.
Maybe the program called dishrip will do the job. If you can find it and if it can run in your system.
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I used to do this kind of thing a long time ago, only with tivo DVR's rather than dishnet DVR's. You aren't going to do that with the USB ports I believe, at least not without doing some very elaborate hacking, and afaik for dish dvr's there are no public hacks in existence that will do this (tivo is another story however.)
But it is nonetheless possible to extract the video streams from the hard disk of a dish pvr. You're looking for a program called dishrip. I myself have never used this particular program though, as I've never had a dish pvr, so I can't really say anything else beyond that.
so until the updated encryption and new digital copy rights protection messures that have been added are broken, it woulnt work with PVR Explorer.
Now here the trick, the 722 uses GNU/Linux file systems:
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When you hook up the Hard Drive it will tell you that it needs to be formatted. So you will loose any data currently on the HD. I think it currently supports a max of something like 500gig. So it formats the HD in a linux file format. Then you can transfer anything from the DVR to the HD or set it to record right to the external HD.

To transfer the files from the HD to your PC you just need to be able to read that standard Linux file format. If you have a PC with Linux your already all set. Apparently for windows there is some additional software that you need that will allow windows to read the linux partition.

Last problem is the saved DVR files are in a proprietary Dish video format. There are programs out on the web that will convert the file type to a standard video format. I have not used any so I cannot recommend them or verify if they work.
You will probably need a network cable, to connect the 722 to the your router if you have one, if you don't have a router and the only option is to connect directly to the computer then you need a crossover network cable.

Cheers
 
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:44 PM   #5
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How would I do this if I were to transfer the movies to an external HDD first and then to the computer. I'm an old man and not the brightest star in the heavens so I'm not to savy on complicated computer jargon. Thanks for the help
I too, am an old guy with rapidly diminishing luminance, but maybe a bit more savvy with GNU/Linux, I hope. I do not have a dish setup, but will try to summarize the excellent research done for you by ukiuki.

It appears that you have two options that you would be able to cope with:

* Burn directly to DVD from the video output of the 722 device - best easiest choice...
* Save to external hard drive, then find a program to convert them to a useful format - not bad, more work

If you have or can get a DVD burner that will burn directly from the video output of the 722 then this is the least hassle, best option. Then you could read the DVDs into your XP computer.

If you have an external USD HDD then you can apparently save them directly to it - but read the warning about the 722 reformatting the drive! You will lose anything else on the drive!

If you do copy to the external drive then they are at least safe and accessible because it uses a standard GNU/Linux file format, so you can then complete the task at your leisure, but you will need a GNU/Linux machine to do that, or maybe boot from a live Linux DVD and copy to your XP drive. The saved files will be in a proprietary Dish video format so you will need to find a program to convert them to something that you can use, but apparently those are available on the net.

My guess is that opening the box and hacking the drive might be a little beyond you, but I may be wrong on that!

Good luck!

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Old 02-02-2014, 06:12 PM   #6
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Thanks Astrogeek. Very helpful info.
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