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08-16-2010, 06:10 PM
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Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,667
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Originally Posted by Rambo_Tribble
If you specifically mention gksudo it is only politic to, in the same breath, mention kdesudo. Manners, you see. But, then I guess that might be too much to ask.
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Where does the OP mention he/she is using Kubuntu? kdesu is irrelevant to the conversation. Please don't insult my manners; we have a nice, respectful community here. 
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08-16-2010, 06:22 PM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: N 44 Deg. 56.537' W 123 Deg. 3.683'
Distribution: Kubuntu, MEPIS, SUSE & Debian
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Perhaps it escapes you, but the tone you have taken is far from respectful.
My inclusion of kdesudo was for others that might read this thread and was not intended as a criticism of your original post, but simply additional, relevant information. Your waxing defensive over it was inappropriate and did nothing to contribute to the discussion.
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08-16-2010, 06:44 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2010
Location: /usa/ca/orange_county/lake_forest
Distribution: ArchBang, Google Android 2.1 + Motoblur (on Motortola Flipside), Google Chrome OS (on Cr-48)
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Originally Posted by snowpine
Which is bad why? 
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Too much like M$.
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08-16-2010, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,667
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Respect on these forums is earned through giving accurate and relevant support to other posters. Spamming a thread already marked "Solved" with off-topic Kubuntu advice is a forgivable rookie mistake, however your suggestion to use the command "sudo su" is dangerous and unsupported according to the official Ubuntu documentation I linked to in post #4.
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08-16-2010, 07:03 PM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: N 44 Deg. 56.537' W 123 Deg. 3.683'
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In defense of kdesudo and gksudo, they are valuable when creating the commands associated with menu entries. Also, when starting, say Kate with root privileges from the console, with sudo or the variants like sudo su, -i, or bash, the load either fails, (e.g. su, -i) or gives error messages related to file ownership. The GUI-sudos do not. In fact, the error messages don't prevent the proper execution of the application, at least in the instances I've tried, but they are annoying and could alarm some users.
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08-16-2010, 07:12 PM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: N 44 Deg. 56.537' W 123 Deg. 3.683'
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Which is why, snowpipe, I used the terms "frowned upon" and "kludge". Ubuntu's exclusive use of sudo, however, has been a point of contention since its introduction. Debian, for instance, does not employ it, nor do most other distributions. Some Ubuntu derivatives have, in fact, chosen to revert.
I readily admit that sudo -i, which the coders of sudo included for a reason, is probably a better alternative.
It appears you are unclear about the meaning of the term "spam", which is strictly reserved for communications of a commercial nature. Obviously, you have used it to be offensive. What were you saying about your manners?
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08-17-2010, 07:50 AM
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#22
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Houston, TX (usa)
Distribution: MEPIS, Debian, Knoppix,
Posts: 4,727
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambo_Tribble
If you specifically mention gksudo it is only politic to, in the same breath, mention kdesudo. Manners, you see. But, then I guess that might be too much to ask.
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If you'd left it at " If you specifically mention gksudo it is only politic to, in the same breath, mention kdesudo." Everything would be fine. Unfortunately, " But, then I guess that might be too much to ask." is itself bad manners. By including that, you let yourself get sucked down to someone else's level, & started a minor flame war.
For the record though, I think are more right & way less rude. (That is meant as a compliment.  )
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08-17-2010, 08:47 AM
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: N 44 Deg. 56.537' W 123 Deg. 3.683'
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You're absolutely right and I must admit the "... too much to ask," was intentionally rude in response to the imperious tone taken by the target of comment. And, appearances would suggest, it was too much to ask.
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08-18-2010, 01:20 PM
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Registered: Mar 2010
Location: Moscow, Russia
Distribution: Ubuntu Studio, antix(mepis), Fedora, FreeBSD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snowpine
Please read the link in post #4. 'sudo su' is deprecated in Ubuntu. To quote:
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Sorry  ... But I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04, and now that I read your words quoted above, I checked it, and lo! it works fine and gives me a root shell in my terminal window.
Was it, then, a purposeful change made specifically in Ubuntu Studio??? You know, because of the need to run audio software with realtime priority or other similar reasons... Well then, the users of Ubuntu Studio can mark this  .
And BTW, when you run the vmware setup, among other questions it asks about your future password to log into your vmware server (I usually use the free vmware server, not the player). It offers some default, but you can change that. Am I right?
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08-18-2010, 01:27 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,667
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Originally Posted by kostya
Sorry  ... But I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04, and now that I read your words quoted above, I checked it, and lo! it works fine and gives me a root shell in my terminal window.
Was it, then, a purposeful change made specifically in Ubuntu Studio??? You know, because of the need to run audio software with realtime priority or other similar reasons... Well then, the users of Ubuntu Studio can mark this  .
And BTW, when you run the vmware setup, among other questions it asks about your future password to log into your vmware server (I usually use the free vmware server, not the player). It offers some default, but you can change that. Am I right?
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Ubuntu Studio is Ubuntu and the same advice applies:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
Sorry but I have never used vmware, hopefully another member can assist you. 
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08-19-2010, 12:47 AM
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Member
Registered: Mar 2010
Location: Moscow, Russia
Distribution: Ubuntu Studio, antix(mepis), Fedora, FreeBSD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snowpine
Sorry but I have never used vmware, hopefully another member can assist you. 
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Not me, but original post author  .
But I'll try it now under Ubuntu and see what happens...
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