[SOLVED] Debian Lenny : how to install xfce 4.6 instead of lenny's 4.4

the trooper · 12-14-2009, 04:28 PM

Try running:

Code:

aptitude -t lenny-backports install xfce4

Again.
When it offers solutions say no,and see what other options it gives you.

I can only think this is because you have packages leftover from Xfce 4.4:

Code:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xfce4: Depends: xfdesktop4 (>= 4.6.1) but 4.4.2-7 is installed.
         Depends: thunar (>= 1.0.1) but 0.9.0-10 is installed.
         Depends: thunar-volman (>= 0.3.80) but it is not installable
         Depends: xfce4-mixer (>= 4.6.1) but 4.4.2-3 is installed.
         Depends: xfce4-appfinder (>= 4.6.1) but it is not installable
         Depends: orage (>= 4.6.1) but it is not installable
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
xfce4 [Not Installed]
xfce4-mcs-plugins [4.4.2-4 (stable, now)]
xfce4-session [4.4.2-6 (stable, now)]
xfce4-settings [Not Installed]

Score is -9791

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q

See how you get on.
I'll check back tomorrow to see how it's going.
Any more problems,post back here.
I'm sure there are other people that can help.

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 04:37 PM

kk thank you very much for your time =)

do i need to remove all packages of current xfce in this case?

the trooper · 12-15-2009, 07:14 AM

Quote:

do i need to remove all packages of current xfce in this case?

I thought you had already purged your existing Xfce4 installation?.
Remember i gave you the purge command in post #9?.
You can also check for installed Xfce files with:

Code:

dpkg -l | grep xfce

Run this after you have used the purge command,to see what packages/libs are left.
If you find more Xfce packages purge them also.
Then try installing Xfce from Backports again.

cloacms · 12-15-2009, 02:58 PM

well, i removed every package from xfce, i removed ALL repos from sources.list leaving only backports and it STILL wants to install 4.4 packages and leave xfce4 package still uninstalled like everything else... whatdaheck?
after i removed all packages:

Code:

root@matrix-core:~/deb# dpkg -l | grep xfce
rc  libxfce4mcs-client3                  4.4.2-4                    Client library for Xfce4 configure interface
rc  libxfce4mcs-manager3                 4.4.2-4                    Manager library for Xfce4 configure interface
rc  libxfce4util4                        4.6.1-1~bpo50+1            Utility functions library for Xfce4
rc  libxfcegui4-4                        4.4.2-4                    Basic GUI C functions for Xfce4
rc  xfce4                                4.6.1.1~bpo50+1            Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
rc  xfce4-mcs-manager                    4.4.2-3                    Settings manager for Xfce4
rc  xfce4-panel                          4.6.1-3~bpo50+1            The Xfce4 desktop environment panel
rc  xfce4-session                        4.6.1-1~bpo50+1            Xfce4 Session Manager
rc  xfce4-settings                       4.6.1-2~bpo50+1            graphical application for managing Xfce settings
rc  xfce4-terminal                       0.2.8-5                    Xfce terminal emulator
rc  xfce4-utils                          4.6.1-1~bpo50+1            Various tools for Xfce
root@matrix-core:~/deb# aptitude install xfce4
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information      
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
  xfce4 xfce4-session 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  exo-utils{a} gtk2-engines-xfce{a} libexo-0.3-0{a} libxfce4util4{a} libxfcegui4-4{a} libxfconf-0-2{a} xfce4-panel{a} xfce4-settings{a} xfce4-utils{a} 
  xfconf{a} xfprint4{a} xfwm4{a} xfwm4-themes{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 1315kB/6707kB of archives. After unpacking 41.9MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xfce4: Depends: xfdesktop4 (>= 4.6.1) but it is not installable
         Depends: thunar (>= 1.0.1) but it is not installable
         Depends: thunar-volman (>= 0.3.80) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: xfce4-mixer (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: xfce4-appfinder (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: orage (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
  xfce4-session: Depends: fortune-mod but it is not installable
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
xfce4 [Not Installed]
xfce4-session [Not Installed]

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
xfce4-settings recommends aumix
xfce4-utils recommends thunar
xfce4-utils recommends xinput
xfce4-utils recommends xdg-user-dirs
Score is -10672

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i think it's because backports don't have a build for i386 which seem ... i don't know how to name that.
i suppose the only way to get through this is either install squeeze(but i wasted too damn much time on this system) or build xfce4 from sources, as the only one solution.
if anyone have better idea, please share it. (or i guess there is no better idea than build from scratch, it's proven by years of this experience)

cloacms · 12-15-2009, 03:11 PM

oh wait i didn't run purge for newly removed packages... maybe that'll help, hold on...

update: now it's like this

Code:

root@matrix-core:~/deb# aptitude install xfce4
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information      
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
  xfce4 xfce4-session 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  exo-utils{a} gtk2-engines-xfce{a} libexo-0.3-0{a} libxfce4util4{a} libxfcegui4-4{a} libxfconf-0-2{a} xfce4-panel{a} xfce4-settings{a} xfce4-utils{a} 
  xfconf{a} xfprint4{a} xfwm4{a} xfwm4-themes{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 1315kB/6707kB of archives. After unpacking 41.9MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xfce4: Depends: xfdesktop4 (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: thunar (>= 1.0.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: thunar-volman (>= 0.3.80) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: xfce4-mixer (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: xfce4-appfinder (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: orage (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
  xfce4-session: Depends: fortune-mod which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
xfce4 [Not Installed]
xfce4-session [Not Installed]

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
xfce4-settings recommends aumix
xfce4-utils recommends thunar
xfce4-utils recommends xinput
xfce4-utils recommends xdg-user-dirs
Score is -10672

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] ^[[A^[[A^C
root@matrix-core:~/deb# dpkg -l | grep xfce
root@matrix-core:~/deb# aptitude -t lenny-backports install xfce4=4.6.1.1~bpo50+1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information      
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
  xfce4 xfce4-session 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  exo-utils{a} gtk2-engines-xfce{a} libexo-0.3-0{a} libxfce4util4{a} libxfcegui4-4{a} libxfconf-0-2{a} xfce4-panel{a} xfce4-settings{a} xfce4-utils{a} 
  xfconf{a} xfprint4{a} xfwm4{a} xfwm4-themes{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 15 newly installed, 0 to remove and 96 not upgraded.
Need to get 1315kB/6707kB of archives. After unpacking 41.9MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xfce4: Depends: xfdesktop4 (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: thunar (>= 1.0.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: thunar-volman (>= 0.3.80) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: xfce4-mixer (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: xfce4-appfinder (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
         Depends: orage (>= 4.6.1) which is a virtual package.
  xfce4-session: Depends: fortune-mod which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
xfce4 [Not Installed]
xfce4-session [Not Installed]

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
xfce4-settings recommends aumix
xfce4-utils recommends thunar
xfce4-utils recommends xinput
xfce4-utils recommends xdg-user-dirs
Score is -10672

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q

i run "aptitude purge ~c" before this. "dpkg -l | grep xfce" is now empty.

Web31337 · 12-15-2009, 03:18 PM

seem to be interesting... i have same problem with xfce and no time to fix it. i thought backports can help.
useful thread, i hope you can solve it without rebuilding from sources-it takes damn much time.
it's been three years since that bug with memory leak first was noticed. this is a stable bug as my friend said

the trooper · 12-15-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

i removed ALL repos from sources.list leaving only backports and it STILL wants to install 4.4 packages

Why did you do this?.
You may need the usual Debian repositories for dependencies.
The only option i can suggest now is put your sources.list back to how we had before.
Then try installing again remembering to use the command for Backports.
When you get to this point:

Code:

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

Type n and keep pressing n until you get the option to install the relevant package versions i.e Xfce 4.6.

See how you go.
Check back again tomorrow.

cloacms · 12-15-2009, 03:45 PM

i restored it to one we had before, then "aptitude update" again, then http://codepad.org/9ZqLlWZ0
you know, sometimes i solved problems downloading .deb. I can't do it now: there are no .deb's for i386 on backports.

Web31337 · 12-18-2009, 05:05 PM

cloacms maybe this will help you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/w...n-debian-2499/
in fact i couldn't install it via aptitude either.

mark_alfred · 12-18-2009, 05:30 PM

Decided, on 2nd thought, that my suggestion wasn't all that useful; so, I've deleted it.

craigevil · 12-18-2009, 07:19 PM

If the backports.org repo isn't working you may want to consider a one of the "unofficial" repos.

Add the repo.
# unofficial kde4/xfce4.6 backports http://www.debian-desktop.org/doku.php/start
# XFCE 4.6.0 # i386,amd64
# deb http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/xfce46 lenny xfce460
# deb-src http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/xfce46 lenny xfce460

Add the gpg key:
fetch gpg key from server

wget http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/li...esktop.org.key

import into apt

apt-key add ./debian-desktop.org.key

After adding the repo and gpg key, aptitude update && aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies

Web31337 · 12-18-2009, 07:59 PM

thanks, if there will be a chance i will, by now the one i built myself works just perfect

cloacms · 12-19-2009, 12:00 AM

big thanks to everyone helped!
i really appreciate your help and attention!
thanks for a post, Web31337, it would also be good if you add an order of packages building. but i think i can sort it out myself when i will be in process of building.
currently in KDE.
i'll track your post, web31337, you will add a response when you discover if the bug was fixed by installing 4.6, won't you? i think i will keep away from building or installing it from apt(but i really had enough) for a while, and, if that doesn't fixes bug, i'll try using another more minimal DM.

mark_alfred · 12-19-2009, 12:11 AM

You could try enabling the source directory for sid, and installing that way. See how to install source packages page for tips. It would be a lot of effort, and likely would not work (it's a great thing to do with smaller packages, but for larger ones, there's just too much that can go wrong).

My other suggestion is to install lxde. It's great. I just installed it today. It's a very good, lightweight desktop environment.

PS, apparently there's a newer methodology behind installing source packages (see porting a package to stable). Mind you, I don't completely understand these newer instructions; so, I'll likely stick with the older method myself.