[SOLVED] Debian Lenny : how to install xfce 4.6 instead of lenny's 4.4

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 12:33 PM

Hello, LQ.

I've got this problem ones may already heard of.
Installed debian lenny, i was trying to use gnome and kde but i don't like them. I tried xfce and it seem to fit my needs but...
My computer is used to be powered on for a weeks. While time passes, a process xfdesktop begin to use more and more memory and to free RAM i need to log out and log in again (it's crazy, don't you think?).

I tried squeeze yesterday on my virtual machine and it has 4.6 and seem not to have that bug, RAM usage is static(yes it still works when i write this and have memory usage 34492k, which is not changing for an hours of usage already), also 4.6 is MUCH better than 4.4.

Advice? how to do that safe?
i already tried adding squeeze to "sources.list" but i can see too many dependencies which should be upgraded if i install 4.6, i'm beginning to afraid it can crash entire GUI(or entire system, i can see there is libc6 required to be updated). is it the only way?

the trooper · 12-14-2009, 12:42 PM

The easiest way would be to use Backports:

http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/xfce4
http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 12:53 PM

yeah im using backports, thanks for the link, i will try that.

the trooper · 12-14-2009, 12:55 PM

Don't forget to remove Squeeze from your sources.list also!.

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 03:38 PM

it won't work. i tried to remove xfce4 package and install this, but no luck ( http://codepad.org/n202O9y2 ), or directly install .deb i fetched, but still no luck(it still won't install xfce4 with apt-get -f install )
i upgraded it partially and it still seem to work but the version is same, bug is present... what would i do?
any idea how to get that fixed?
even tried removing main mirrors, leaving only backports... nothing helped.

i really begin to believe this system is trying to tell me it is smarter than me.

worm5252 · 12-14-2009, 03:40 PM

try this

Code:

apt-get remove --purge xfce4

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 03:47 PM

no way... http://codepad.org/zwdbb8E6
what am i doing wrong? maybe i need to go another way of installing?

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 03:49 PM

maybe i need to remove all packages associated with xfce and start from scratch?

the trooper · 12-14-2009, 03:51 PM

Start from the beginning.

Code:

aptitude purge xfce4 && aptitude purge ~c

Then,add your entries for the main Debian repositories and Backports in /etc/apt/sources.list
When you have added these post back here with the output of

Code:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

And then we will go from there.

worm5252 · 12-14-2009, 03:52 PM

What about doing this for each dependency

Code:

apt-get upgrade xfdesktop4

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 03:58 PM

what is "purge ~c"?
sources.list is

Code:

deb http://ftp.psn.ru/debian/ lenny contrib main
deb http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ lenny contrib main
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt lenny main
deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main

2 worm5252: i believe it does upgrade on entire system, not the package.

the trooper · 12-14-2009, 04:18 PM

So Xfce is purged successfully,yes?.
Then the next step is to work on your sources.list.
We'll borrow Craigevils' example,make yours look something like this:

Code:

#Stable
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
#Stable Sources
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
#Security Updates Stable
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free

# Debian Volatile http://www.debian.org/volatile/
 deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free

# Debian Stable Backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free

#Debian-multimedia.org apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
 deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny  main 

# WINE 
deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt lenny main

Obviously you can change the US entries for ones more appropriate to your location.
Post back with yours when you have modified it.

Quote:

what is "purge ~c"?

Removes any leftover config files.

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 04:42 PM

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

Code:

deb http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib
#Stable Sources
deb-src http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib
#Security Updates Stable
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
# Debian Volatile http://www.debian.org/volatile/
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
# Debian Stable Backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib
#Debian-multimedia.org apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main 
# WINE 
deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt lenny main

already run "aptitude update" what's next?

the trooper · 12-14-2009, 05:05 PM

If you had no errors after running aptitude upate,then we can install Xfce again.
So install with:

Code:

 aptitude -t lenny-backports install xfce4

See how that goes.

cloacms · 12-14-2009, 05:17 PM

no way... tried Y also, nothing helps. http://codepad.org/k9J6oY7t
either it's too smart or too stupid. im beginning to think i will need to reinstall system entirely. or remove it and install something else which isn't so damn smart.