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Old 08-27-2010, 08:08 AM   #1
Shashank_Rashpa
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Debian 5.0 doesn't boot properly on HP Laptop


Hi
(This thread was on the laptops and netbooks forum but i couldn't any replies there so i posted it here.)


I'm trying to install debian on my HP laptop but get the following problem...
After the live CD boot screen shows up i go to XFCE > install
it loads vmlinuz and init.gz and after that the screen goes blank
i tried graphical install, advanced install, advanced graphical install but those too didn't work
also i tried all of these from LXDE menu
but the same problem
My laptop is HP pavillion dv6
its got an ATI radeon graphics card (hope there's no problem with the display)
4GB ram
intel core i7
However the cd works fine with my old desktop computer
which has no graphics card
256MB ram
intel P4 CPU
Do i need to set some boot parameters?
Anybody please suggest!
 
Old 08-27-2010, 09:02 AM   #2
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Boot parameters...

What is the model of your HP DV6, and do you know which ATI graphics chip it uses? Trying a cheatcode for the graphics chip seems like your next approach but you need to know which one should work. Can you press "Esc" during booting to see what is loading, or what is failing to load?

What else have you tried?

Have you tried to boot a debian live-cd with KDE or Gnome? You trying to install debian 5.0, but have you tried the debian version(Squeeze?) with the newest packages? Have you tried to live boot any other distributions? There are XFCE live-cd versions of several distros.

Can you boot a copy of PartedMagic or SystemRescueCD(XFCE)?

If you can boot something, preferably something with with XFCE, you can look at "dmesg" and "lsmod" to see what is loading and try to have debian do the same.

Otherwise, you can try Google with your exact graphics specifications and debian/Ubuntu. The command "lshw" is included in the SystemRescue live-cd and should give you the needed information.

Last edited by thorkelljarl; 08-27-2010 at 10:32 AM.
 
Old 08-27-2010, 12:14 PM   #3
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Try passing the 'nomodeset' option to the kernel and see if you get any further.

Adam
 
Old 08-27-2010, 12:17 PM   #4
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Thanks for reply!
My HP dv6 is model 3052 and the graphics chip is HD 5650 What do you mean by cheatcode for graphics card? Want me to specify something about graphics card at boot time? Pressing esc doesn't do anything neither does F1 nor any other key.
No i haven't tried debian with KDE, gnome, haven't tried squeeze (is it good for laptops?)
But i have tried some other distributions...
Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.10 (use gnome,you know that) both failed to start, got stuck at "loading hardware drivers".
Xubuntu 8.10 (xfce) sometimes gets stuck at "loading hardware drivers" but sometimes works fine.
Back track 4 (with KDE) works fine all the time with no problems.
Open solaris 2009.06 (with gnome) works fine except compiz.
Do you mean to say its due to window manager?
 
Old 08-27-2010, 12:21 PM   #5
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nomodeset? But what does that do?
 
Old 08-27-2010, 01:10 PM   #6
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nomodeset disables kernel modesetting. Shortly after the kernel boots in many modern distributions, KMS kicks in and the kernel reads the EDID from the monitor and tries to set the appropriate resolution on the console. It's possible that there's something going wrong with this process. It's also possible that it's completely unrelated.

Adam
 
Old 08-28-2010, 01:09 AM   #7
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Well thanks adam!
But i don't think putting nomodeset in kernel line is helping.
 
Old 08-29-2010, 08:22 AM   #8
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Newer versions...

This is a new model laptop and most likely requires that you install one of the newest linux distributions such as Debian 6(Squeeze) or Unstable(Sid), or Ubuntu 10.04/Mint 9. Earlier versions of linux with an older kernel may not have support for the components in a DV6-3052.

On the assumption that the problem is with the graphics, it may be that an older linux does not have a module that will enable the Radeon HD 5650 graphics hardware on this system. Posts on Ubuntu forums tell me that Ubuntu 10.04 installs with the ati linux module and that 10.04 works with the ATI proprietary linux driver.

Try to boot something new and then something new with XFCE and see how it goes.

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