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Old 10-03-2002, 08:43 AM   #1
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This is probably a stupid question. What does Debian 3.0 come with for window managers? I want to switch from Mandrake 8.1, is it a good choice for me? I've heard that Debian is more "hardcore" than other distro's . I'm by no means a linux guru just an average user. Is it very hard to install or use? (compared to Mandrake?) , Thanks
Old 10-03-2002, 08:52 AM   #2
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Check out the site to find out what window managers it comes with, and yes it is more hardcore, but it has a bigger learning curve, personally i haven't used it, and i think its a text ONLY install, not sure about this realease..

Old 10-03-2002, 11:06 AM   #3
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In my oppinion you should give it a try if you feel you have "grown out of" mandrake. Yes it's harder, but in return you learn more and get more control over your box. If you only want a functional system to play games, surf the web, etc.. Mandrake is fine, but with debian like with Slack, you reallly get to learn how a system works. Debian also had apt-get which is awesome, you just type in what software you want, and it will fetch it, install it and configure it for you. I never used Debian, but these are things i heard about it, and it's the next on my list of distros to try, im postponing it tho, since i cant take advantage of apt-get cuz im stuck on 56k line.
So, for now im still with Slack, but if you feel comfortable with mandy, give debian a try too. I had only 3 month experience with SuSE linux, then installed Slack, and didnt know anything! i just stared at the text login prompt wondering what to do, but within a week i had X and internet setup, and now i have a fully configured slack, so if you feel brave, try debian, after the initial steep curve you'll be very pleased with it, im sure.
Old 10-03-2002, 12:29 PM   #4
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I changed to Debain recently (from SuSE), adn I'm glad I did.
It's a little harder. You'll have to start reading doc's/faq's. And the setup is all text-mode. X and all the usual windowsmanager are there inlcuding gnome and KDE. Apt-get is very cool, especially if you have a fast internet connection, but not only then.

If you want to learn more about the 'real', more bare-bones, way things are done in UN*X/Linux, it certainly is a good choice. Slackware is probably the ost "bare-bones" distro, next comes Debian (not counting some more small specialised distro's). In Debian things are pre-arranged for you then in Slackware. Arguably the package system (apt!) is the best of all distro's, though more complicated than RPM.
Good luck!
Old 10-03-2002, 05:06 PM   #5
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Sounds good. I'm stuck on an f*&^$%n' dial-up line so I ordered debian and slackware from cheapbytes. I guess I won't be able to take advantage of apt-get either but I'm sure it'll be good fun anyway. Thanks for all of your opinions.
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Apt-get also works with the cd set, itīs 7 cdīs with debian, but you just write f.ex.: apt-get install fluxbox and then it calculates the dependencies for you and tell you what cdīs to put in.

Although the install is textbased it is still menudriven and fairly easy, itīs more when you a setting up X and other stuff it getīs a little more difiicult.

I jumped from Mandrake to debian, after having used linux for 2 month, and it only took me a couple of days to get used to debian.

I have tried alot of dist. since but always ending up with debian instead, here i can count: slack, gentoo, RH, Mandrake.
Old 10-03-2002, 06:52 PM   #7
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i use debian right now and its great, yes apt-get is a very very very neato system.

only prob you might run into is confiugring X, you'll need some help prolly. i had my neighbor do it for me so im lucky but theres prolly some other gurus around here that know.

only downfall is it comes with only gnome 1.4 and KDE 2.2, so its upto you to get the latest revisions of those environments.

the installation is text based and its prolly best if you do the net install, if u got a cd burner go get the 10mb netinstall thing and go write it.

i only do netinstall cos i have a broadband connection. and dont worry go for unstable/SID because its infact quite stable.
Old 10-03-2002, 08:26 PM   #8
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debian isn't too hard to install for semi-newbies

give it a try leads to good info on it
Old 10-03-2002, 09:32 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the input, I'll probably run into a few snags if its text based install. Does anyone know if fluxbox comes with debian? I checked out their site and all they list for window managers are KDE and Gnome. I'm using KDe right now because i've had some problems getting fluxbox to show up in the drop down box when I log on. I had this problem another time but I edited a file somewhere and it fixed it, but I can't remember now. I use blackbox a bit but I like fluxbox better, anyway I'll worry about getting debian running now.
Thanks again
Old 10-04-2002, 05:46 AM   #10
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You can get about any windowsmanager that is out there for debian.
Fluxbox and blackbox are on the cd's.


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