Hey FP,
Great going! Well you had an easy ride so far. I am newbie myself. Never seen or touched a GNU/Linux machine or for that matter any Unix variant before. I am not even a technie, just a regular banker doing Product Development ( not software just financial prodcuts ).
Well here I am writing this post running a newbie customized version of Suse 9 on my Compaq Presario 2540EA. I certainly did NOT have an easy ride. OK I'll be honest I do not have the patience to read man pages or even info pages. Just eager to get it going, hands on kinda guy.
In the past month I have probably installed Suse 9, Lindows and even a GNU/Hurd based system 10-15 times. Why? to get a working installation of a GNU/Linux installation on my laptop with ALL my hardware and Window Managers working without a hitch. Of yeah almost forgot, all these installations that I did were on this same Laptop.
Here's just a brief summary of what I have done so far. Sure some of these are just plain newbie bonker ideas. But either way, here's the list :
- Well I got sick of going where I was going to be led that day or for that matter any day by MS so I was considering getting a Mac.
- But as fate had it, I went to a store to buy a Washing Machine and came back with this laptop. Why Compaq, well I got it kinda cheap and its kinda upper mid spec. 2.6, 40 gigs, DVD/CDRW, modem. Very usable for almost anyone. As is common for most LT's it came preinstalled with XP home.
- Sure loved the machine, got back on the net after almost a 3 year hibernation ( got married, got a kid ). Did a lot in my first weekend. Well that a long story but I tried out MSN 6, MSN 8, Yahoo, emusic, bonzi, irc and a whole lot more. Well actually bonzi is what got me this broke..lol. All of this in a three day extended weekend.
- Thats when I felt I had plateau'd (did i just coin a new term here? ) out on MS systems. Thats the only system I have seen or used ever since I started using PC's. started with 3.1 and ended with XP. To plagiarize a quote from someone here or somewhere else. Windows Free in 2003! It kinda rhymes well. Almost poetic.
- Ok my first trial RH 8.x . Problems faced, free on firewire, usb and harware probe. did try it with linux nofirewire, nousb and noprobe. I did see a few more screens from the GUI install process, but that was about it.
- Next move, got SuSE 9. First install with standard options went almost smooth. Pros - firewire, usb and hardware probe went well. Have'nt tried firewire, but the rest worked. Cons - modem dead, VESA drivers, with nothing more than 800 x 600 or there abouts. Well me being confident this beast could do more, I puched up the resolution to 1024 x 768 with all the colors 16.x million. The test worked. Rebooted just to be sure again, and the real fun got started. No GUI. Well I have seen the MS blue screen a lot, but what was I supposed to do on a SuSE 9 blue screen. Well actually it wasn't just a blue screen. I could log in and do a lot probably, but didnt know any commands not even ls. Tried dir, help help --help and then info, tinkered with emacs..lol RMS thank ya man. I still havent learned to do any thing constructive on it yet, but I sure hope to.
- FP , you are lucky coz you had your gui and you could connect to the net and get help from Azmeen (very educative ?- educate me too
- I didnt have my screen and the net. Dingbats!! No Azmeen , not even Demonbabe to help
- Anyway to cut a long story short - here's what I can do on my LT now
1. GUI works. No 3D. Thats on my tudo list. Found a short cut to getting a lot more resolutio without applying any fixes or patches. Choose Compaq - MV700 as your monitor. Might not work on any other LT or even on a Presario but it works for me. No 3D though.
2. Upgraded to Gnome 2.4
3. Tried Garnome - had my machine running the make install for garnome for 36 hours straight on my lap top connected via my dial-up with an average speed of under 4K. Bandwidth here sucks. Well havent booted into Garnome yet, but I do have all the downloads. It still wont work though. libiconv what are you doing??
4. Instead went in for manual Gnome 2.4 install from a few ftp sites.
5. Gnome boots well, but it aint perfect yet. work in progress for me.
6. The maximum I have stretched this machine - 4 GUI sessions running Gnome 2.4 on 2, KDE and Window Maker on the other 2, with Gnumeric, abi word, ximian, kmail, yast2, gedit, gkrellm, svg Tiger background, nautilus, konqueror, kppp, calculator, epiphany and a few terminal sessions running aafire, info, and one other one running ./configure in /pythog 2.3 folder. Oh yeah I had Screen savers running on all of them too. I have all my most valuable downloads on a raid drive on the same 40 gb hard drive. I know its not right to have it on the same physical drive, but thats all i have.
7 - work in progress - gDesklets, XFree with 3 D accel. Mine is an IGP 340 card. I know I can get it done. Fix garnome, get rhythmbox working with esound enabled. Theoretically possible? Dunno. gDesklets being just a frigging pain though. PyGtk, gnome-python, old kernel. Got 2.4.21, first 2 runs failed. a few more and I will finally have my icons zooming a la Mac. I need that...lol. I did manage it on KDE with KDM but I want it on Gnome with GDM. Looks much better that way! Want a dual boot with BSD and GNU/Linux.
Note to FP.... yeah you Frozen Pingus!
I aint a techie, I dont program, havent used anything other than MS products. Havent even meddled in Basic to this day. Yesterday at 2 am I was checking out Python 2.3 in emacs. Pretty cool! Feature summary says it can Help with memory management. I wanna see if it can help me not with hardware or software memory management, but my own 32 year old, abused brain cells to get my icons to zoom as much as I want. I did format my drive using Yast from Suse 9 CD 1. No partition magic required, just wanted to get rid of everything on my drive and start fresh. No regrets !!
To this day, this is my first post on any message boards. I have not posted a single request for help here or anywhere else. (except one to SuSE for my frigging hsf modem). But by the time I got a reply, I had fixed it with a linuxant driver. They do have an updated driver on ftp.suse.com in a personal folder. I would like to believe it is in a personal folder coz I made a personal request. Will try it out soon.
Gar, Gar
Stop Thinking, Start Configuring!
cheers to all! keep up the good work - Azmeen and all