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DanielTan 06-02-2005 10:57 AM

Configure sound in FC 3
 
I just installed FC 3 and it can detect my sound card and testing using the soundcard detection passed. But when i want to configue the volume control, it says "Sory no mixer elements/or devices found. What does it means ? My sound card is AC'97 Audio controller on a notebook. Wen putting music CD , cd player reported error. Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks

Regards
Daniel

kornerr 06-02-2005 12:04 PM

Have you run "alsaconf"?
And another useful info.

DanielTan 06-02-2005 10:01 PM

Kornerr, what is ALSA ? Thanks

Regards
Daniel


Quote:

Originally posted by kornerr
Have you run "alsaconf"?
And another useful info.


mkoljack 06-02-2005 11:21 PM

ALSA
 
ALSA is Advanced Linux Sound Architecture.

http://www.alsa-project.org/

ALSA is the core of running sound on Fedora Core 3. As kornerr suggests, running "alsaconf" is the sound card configuration tool. He (kornerr) means:

1. Open a terminal as root user, enter passwd.
2. Type "alsaconf" without the quote marks.
3. The ALSA soundcard configuration tool will appear, folow the instructions.

kornerr is most helpful. I suggest you follow his advice if you have further questions or issues with sound.

Good Luck!

Mark

DanielTan 06-03-2005 02:43 AM

Re: ALSA
 
thanks guys. Is it because i'm not configure ALSA tools so no sound? Let me try it out first and let u know the result.

Regards
Daniel


Quote:

Originally posted by mkoljack
ALSA is Advanced Linux Sound Architecture.

http://www.alsa-project.org/

ALSA is the core of running sound on Fedora Core 3. As kornerr suggests, running "alsaconf" is the sound card configuration tool. He (kornerr) means:

1. Open a terminal as root user, enter passwd.
2. Type "alsaconf" without the quote marks.
3. The ALSA soundcard configuration tool will appear, folow the instructions.

kornerr is most helpful. I suggest you follow his advice if you have further questions or issues with sound.

Good Luck!

Mark


DanielTan 06-03-2005 08:39 AM

Re: Re: ALSA
 
Hi, i login as root and into the terminal. There is no alsaconf ? i'm using FC3.

Regards
Daniel


Quote:

Originally posted by DanielTan
thanks guys. Is it because i'm not configure ALSA tools so no sound? Let me try it out first and let u know the result.

Regards
Daniel


kornerr 06-03-2005 09:20 AM

Well... let's see what commands you have which begin from "alsa" word.
All commands usually are meant to be run by "root" user, so I omit repeating it.
In console type
Code:

alsa
and press <Tab> (once or twice)
Here's my output of such manipulations:
Code:

alsa<Tab>
alsaconf  alsactl    alsalisp  alsamixer

This means I have all what's necessary for sound.
If you get nothing... you have no ALSA installed. I can only wonder how it can be this way.

DanielTan 06-03-2005 10:03 AM

Hi, i have these files only , no alsaconf. How to install it ? Thanks
alsactl alsalisp alsamixer


Regards
Daniel

Quote:

Originally posted by kornerr
Well... let's see what commands you have which begin from "alsa" word.
All commands usually are meant to be run by "root" user, so I omit repeating it.
In console type
Code:

alsa
and press <Tab> (once or twice)
Here's my output of such manipulations:
Code:

alsa<Tab>
alsaconf  alsactl    alsalisp  alsamixer

This means I have all what's necessary for sound.
If you get nothing... you have no ALSA installed. I can only wonder how it can be this way.


kornerr 06-03-2005 10:44 AM

Either here ,
or do the following:
1) mount your FC CD/DVD;
2)
Code:

find /mount/point/for/your/drive -name *alsa*
;
You should find a package like "alsa-utils".
Install it, reboot, and try "alsaconf" again.

[Check all CDs/DVDs for ALSA]

DanielTan 06-03-2005 11:11 AM

Kornerr, i have downloaded it and use the archive manager to run and extract it. After i reboot , still not have there ?

Regards
Daniel


Quote:

Originally posted by kornerr
Either here ,
or do the following:
1) mount your FC CD/DVD;
2)
Code:

find /mount/point/for/your/drive -name *alsa*
;
You should find a package like "alsa-utils".
Install it, reboot, and try "alsaconf" again.

[Check all CDs/DVDs for ALSA]


kornerr 06-03-2005 11:21 AM

Be as descriptive as possible of what you've done.

kornerr 06-03-2005 11:24 AM

And if you've downloaded an archive from alsa, it is alsa-utils sources. You should compile them in case to use them:
go to the source dir and
Code:

./configure
make
make install


mkoljack 06-03-2005 11:28 AM

alsa-utils
 
#1) Ensure you did a system update using up2date or yum. This will ensure your installation is completely updated including the latest kernel, then as root do:

yum install alsa-utils

or

#2) Locate the alsa-utils pkg on the install disks located in the RPM folder of each disk and double click, then use the system install choice in the window that appears.

Why not use the rpm tools available, then as updates become available, your system tools will take care of it. If you compile from source, you will always have to compile every time.

kornerr 06-03-2005 11:45 AM

Quote:

If you compile from source, you will always have to compile every time
can you describe it more?

mkoljack 06-03-2005 11:55 AM

Hi kornerr--

All alsa rpm pkgs (including alsa-utils) for fedora core 3 in the system install disks. Since FC3 is an rpm based distribution, why not just install the rpm package which was designed for the system. This precludes having to compile from source code.

Additionally, when the yum repos are configured well, the user simply does "yum update" and if there is an upgrade in alsa rpm pkgs, yum simply updates the FC3 alsa pkgs automatically.

Thus, it is not necessary to comile alsa-utils, which I think is confusing, especially for new users who may not have all the development pkgs installed to compile source. Further, each time a new alsa-utils pkg is released, the user has to compile and install each time.

Regards,

Mark

kornerr 06-03-2005 12:36 PM

Quote:

This precludes having to compile from source code
Actually rpm-using has more disadvantages than advantages. I'm speaking about so-called dependencies.
When I tried installing smth last year ("using" Mdk9.2) I failed. Some dependencies weren't satisfied. And I didn't know where to get all the rest to satisfy them.
Now I just download a source, type three magical words, and everything works without any need to update smth.
If it doesn't, it tells me directly what to install in addition. This seems to be easier for a beginner...

Quote:

Additionally, when the yum repos are configured well, the user simply does "yum update" and if there is an upgrade in alsa rpm pkgs, yum simply updates the FC3 alsa pkgs automatically
You still have a Windows-user view on things:)

Quote:

Further, each time a new alsa-utils pkg is released, the user has to compile and install each time
I've recently downloaded alsa-1.0.9rc and it's worser than my "old" alsa-1.0.5. So the lesson is: if smth works perfectly, there's no need to replace it with a new version.

mkoljack 06-03-2005 01:19 PM

kornerr--

I am glad you are trying to help this person as that is why we are here.

I must inform you that all dependencies are not a problem if the yum.conf file is configured properly. The key word is "properly". There are many places to go to for help on how to accomplish that. That is the point of using a tool like yum because the tools take care of the dependency problems. Thus, precluding having to compile from source--and of course there is nothing wrong with that. It is more difficult for new linux users, which is one of my points. Because you had Mandrake issues does not mean that compiling from source is the solution.

Second, I have a SB Audigy2 NX external USB sound card where that newest alsa drivers work best to take advantage of this particular card. This is after discussing this with advanced users in Linux and specifically Fedora. Thus, in my case, it is necessary to use the latest available. This is not necessarily having a "Windows-user view on things".


However, as you point out newest isn't always best. I very much understand that and agree. I hope you are able to help this person with their sound issue, which is what is most important.

kornerr 06-03-2005 08:46 PM

I see I can't convince you to try another distro:)
Just don't forget that other distros exist, and try another one someday.
When I was using Windows I didn't think I miss anything.
When I was using Mandrake9.2 I thought Linux is VERY difficult and only developers know what's going on there.
Now, when I use Slackware10.0 I see Linux is very logical and easy so you can deal with every problem, provided you can read a manual.
[sorry for off-top]

DanielTan 06-04-2005 12:20 AM

Re: alsa-utils
 
mkoljack, so do you suggest to use alsa-utils from install disk and later update from internet using yum or up2date ? what abt the alsaconf utility ? do i still have to run it ? btw thanks guys for suggesting various methods.

Quote:

Originally posted by mkoljack
#1) Ensure you did a system update using up2date or yum. This will ensure your installation is completely updated including the latest kernel, then as root do:

yum install alsa-utils

or

#2) Locate the alsa-utils pkg on the install disks located in the RPM folder of each disk and double click, then use the system install choice in the window that appears.

Why not use the rpm tools available, then as updates become available, your system tools will take care of it. If you compile from source, you will always have to compile every time.


mkoljack 06-04-2005 12:52 AM

Sound
 
#1) You have Fedora 3 installed. Is that correct?
#2) Are you using Gnome or KDE as your desktop?

DanielTan 06-04-2005 12:59 AM

Re: Sound
 
Hi, yes FC3 installed and using Gnome. u mean take alsa-utils from every disk or just one ?

Regards
Daniel

Quote:

Originally posted by mkoljack
#1) You have Fedora 3 installed. Is that correct?
#2) Are you using Gnome or KDE as your desktop?


DanielTan 06-05-2005 07:10 AM

Re: Sound
 
Hi mkoljack, i've inserted the RPM install disk and double click on the alsa-utilsxxx.rpm file and it has been installed. A message box says it has been installed. Then i type "yum install alsa-utils" and the result is below. But i checked alsaconf still not existed. Should i use up2date first ? It hangs at the end of the download, so i abort it and straight to RPM disk install. Pls advise. Tq

[root@mp420 ~]# yum install alsa-utils
Setting up Install Process
Setting up Repo: base
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
Setting up Repo: updates-released
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
base : ################################################## 2622/2622
updates-re: ################################################## 865/865
Nothing to do


Regards
Daniel


Quote:

Originally posted by mkoljack
#1) You have Fedora 3 installed. Is that correct?
#2) Are you using Gnome or KDE as your desktop?


DanielTan 06-08-2005 07:55 PM

Re: Sound
 
Hi, mkoljack, any idea why below message is ?

[root@mp420 ~]# yum install alsa-utils
Setting up Install Process
Setting up Repo: base
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
Setting up Repo: updates-released
repomd.xml 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
base : ################################################## 2622/2622
updates-re: ################################################## 865/865
Nothing to do


Regards
Daniel


Quote:

Originally posted by mkoljack
#1) You have Fedora 3 installed. Is that correct?
#2) Are you using Gnome or KDE as your desktop?



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