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Old 05-11-2016, 01:35 PM   #1
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Completely confused about which distro to choose & how to install dual boot


Dear Ladies & Gentlemen!

To say that I am a Linux newbie is an understatement. I have spent about 30 minutes playing around on some distro once, and that's it.
I am taking an EdX course called intro to Linux. And it tells me I need to choose between openSUSE, CentOS, and Ubuntu. Well...my question is, which of these is the most newb friendly? And which can be dual booted with W10? I want to install it on my W10 laptop.

I tried going through the openSUSE installation, but the installation looked more complicated than anything I had ever seen before. So much crap written everywhere, so many options.

When you answer me, pretend you're talking to a big doofus

Do I need to create a new partition on my W10 laptop? Or does it just park itself alongside Windows?

Is there an installation guide for idiots somewhere?

Thank you so much

SpaceDonkey
 
Old 05-11-2016, 01:47 PM   #2
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I would suggest installing Virtualbox and installing there. Once you are comfortable with a distro you can later choose if you really want to dual boot and you will have learnt more about the
distro in question by then.

All of the distros you have listed should be fine and have simple click and follow installations from memory. Let us know how you get on?
 
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:49 PM   #3
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Hi

Ubuntu Try that 1 for 1st distro burn a live dvd use it from dvd 1st see how it looks. Others will moan about it but user friendly and easy to use, You can find live cd for most distros to try, so dont just try 1 give a few a test drive, Then worry about installing once you have found 1 you like. Yes you will have to create "Space " a partition for linux next to windows.
 
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:55 PM   #4
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Hi.

Personal data backups first plus if you don't have a microcough back up google how.

I would pick an opinion, as only we can do here (1-openSUSE, 2-CentOS (just me)) but with just 3... run them all and see (or just run them all free,) run live or (e.g:) Virtualbox first.

When installing use 10 to shrink it's own partition http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/201...ake-space.html
towards the end install GRUB to MBR the installer will do the work for you but if you have a separate device to google searches on it's context as you go?++

Check out the first link in my signature and don't get discouraged we could not walk at first either(, like I'm turrible at expanding how. )

Have fun!

Add: sorry for some redundancies, slow typer here.

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Old 05-11-2016, 01:56 PM   #5
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You can download to a USB stick or DVD and then boot live to try a distribution out first.

Ubuntu is pretty good.

I also like MINT Cinnamon. Further, MINT comes in a Debian form. What you'll learn is that MINT is derived from Ubuntu. However the Debian form is derived from the Debian distribution. If I were to recommend which one to try first, I would say: MINT Cinnamon Debian Edition.

When you install you can make it as dual boot.

Personally I limit PCs to single functions. I don't regularly do what they call Virtual Machines or dual boot.

If you can dedicate an entire PC just to Linux, something you have which is near throwaway for now, then try that out. Caveat is that "my" version of throwaway is vastly different than others. I do not believe in keeping machines that are very old. The reason being is that I'm doing classical whole support desktop stuff. Web browsing, email, videos, etc, and I don't wish to run into limitations due to very old hardware, memory, processor power, etc. So for me, old is somewhere less than 10 years.
 
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:09 PM   #6
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Lightbulb Off topic but.

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Personally I limit PCs to single functions. I don't regularly do what they call Virtual Machines or dual boot.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/22064...ts_You_Do.html
https://www.linux.com/learn/why-when...irtual-machine
 
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:33 PM   #7
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I also suggest going with VirtualBox. You do not have to worry about resizing partitions, boot loaders or possibly UEFI secure boot. If you mess up something you can delete the virtual machine without worrying about screwing up Windows 10.

Yes, there are a number of questions but if you take a look at the guides it isn't so bad. You can probably select the default in most cases. Here is Ubuntu.

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/deskt...ubuntu-desktop

Even though Mint is derived from Ubuntu we do not know how the course is written so before everyone adds there OS of choice lets stick to the 3 posted so we do not add even more confusion.
 
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:16 PM   #8
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After you get the hang of installing, VMs are nice for cloning too (like a full OS back up\VM. )
 
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:11 PM   #9
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I tried going through the openSUSE installation, but the installation looked more complicated than anything I had ever seen before. So much crap written everywhere, so many options.
Try reading the Open Suse installation instructions and partition the way they explain it.
http://opensuse-guide.org/installation.php

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Do I need to create a new partition on my W10 laptop? Or does it just park itself alongside Windows?
If installing Open Suse you will first have to shrink your Windows partition to make room for your Linux installation. Yes you will have to create partitions on your W10 laptop but use the Linux install CD or USB to do so.

The partition manager that comes with the installer of the distro your installing will prompt you to create partitions. Generally you would create a Ext 4 partition for the file system and than a swap partition.
Open Suse IMO runs better with a /boot, /root, /home and swap partition.

Some distribution installers give you the options during the install to install alongside Windows.
If not you will have to manually partition the partitions for your installation.

CentOS is the free version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux and is mostly a server class distribution.

Linux Mint Debian is a really nice distribution if you want to give that a try in Vbox.
http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Linux-Mint
https://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

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Old 05-11-2016, 08:14 PM   #10
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Whoah!!! SO many answers! Thanks so much guys, I'm going to process all of this, and let you know what I try.
 
Old 05-11-2016, 08:19 PM   #11
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I suggest VirtualBox also.

One thing good with VMs, is you can move the VM. Copy the VM files to an external drive or even to a USB if the capacity allows it.

Then you just install VirtualBox on another PC, import the VM and there you have the same setup and files are there too.

If you messed up the VM just delete the file and start all over again.

Good luck!!
 
Old 05-11-2016, 08:46 PM   #12
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One more option:

remove your hard drive and put in a pendrive or another HDD and put Linux/whatever on that without risking your paid for installation.

Fred.
 
Old 05-11-2016, 08:59 PM   #13
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One more option:

remove your hard drive and put in a pendrive or another HDD and put Linux/whatever on that without risking your paid for installation.

Fred.
Good idea for a desktop pc.
OP didn't say if his machine is a desktop or a laptop.
 
Old 05-11-2016, 09:04 PM   #14
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If installing Open Suse you will first have to shrink your Windows partition to make room for your Linux installation. Yes you will have to create partitions on your W10 laptop but use the Linux install CD or USB to do so.

The partition manager that comes with the installer of the distro your installing will prompt you to create partitions. Generally you would create a Ext 4 partition for the file system and than a swap partition.

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What if the hard drive is full, rare for most theses days but?
 
Old 05-11-2016, 09:29 PM   #15
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What if the hard drive is full, rare for most theses days but?
If the HDD is full than performing a back up to a external HDD; than shrink the Windows partition.
-:::-Rare but that depends on the size of the internal drive.-:::-

<OR> install a new HDD or SSD like Fred Caro suggested.
 
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