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Old 07-24-2014, 03:04 PM   #1
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Cool Compaq Presario V4335EA Can I install Linux over Window XP?


Hi I am an interested silver surfer! (68)
I am new to this kind of topic.
I have a laptop which has XP (no longer any support) I would like to try Linux. I downloaded Ubuntu 14.4
I cannot get it to install I have a message which says "Invalid Menu handle"
I changed my browser to Opera and ditched IE and Chrome.

Can anyone help please?

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Old 07-25-2014, 05:34 PM   #2
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I'm not using Ubuntu whenever I have a different option. But even though the 12.04 Version had several (to me rather severe) bugs, that error still doesn't sound quite right.
http://www.linlap.com/hp-compaq_presario_v4000t indicates it should work on a V4000 series laptop in general.
Have you checked the MP5 sum (a hash) of the CD image? (Should be available on the download site.)
Anyway, more information would be helpful on when exactly that error message shows up.
 
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:58 PM   #3
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Thank you. I will need to look into your reply.
I downloaded Ubuntu and when I tried to install/ run the download The error message appeared.
 
Old 07-25-2014, 06:02 PM   #4
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Check the md5sum of your downloaded Ubuntu iso.

Make sure bios is set to boot from cd or dvd drive 1st.

Make sure you downloaded i386 if laptop is 32 bit.

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Old 07-25-2014, 06:06 PM   #5
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Thank you. rokytnji & Ratamahatta- you have both given me something to work on!
I will try to understand what you have given me and come back here when (Not if!) I have difficulties!
 
Old 07-25-2014, 06:50 PM   #6
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Good luck with it.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/54296...-and-the-amd64

I mentioned 32 bit because you say your ran XP for starters.

Your computer processor is maybe 64bit capable but to be safe. If I was you. I'd go with the 32 bit (i386 or i686) download since you have less than 4 gig of ram. I run old gear myself and 32bit gnu/linux runs just fine and dandy.

I would stay away from regular Ubuntu though.

If me in your shoes. I would go with (since Ubuntu base is preferred here) with

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation
 
Old 07-25-2014, 07:40 PM   #7
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It would be helpful to know how much RAM it has and the processor speed and size of HD.

However, as rokytnji alluded to, it is unlikely the regular Ubuntu would perform well on an XP machine.

Ubuntu has a few choices that would work better for you. Lubuntu is the lightest weight one and should be no problem for an XP machine. The next one is Xubuntu, which is the next one up on resources (if you have 1 GIG ram it is also a possibility. Also, and again if you have the one gig ram, another choice would be Mint 17 XFCE edition (this is basically the Mint version of Xubuntu, but perhaps more beginner friendly. And all of these have a desktop that will be more familiar to you; the regular Ubuntu would be quite different from XP.

I have an XP machine and did the same thing you are wanting to do just 3 months ago. In case you are unaware, it is also possible to do a dual boot, which would leave XP on the pc and give you a choice between the linux and XP every time you boot up.

Ditching IE was smart since it is unsupported in XP now, but there is nothing wrong with Chrome so I am not sure the reason you ditched that.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 06:21 AM   #8
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It would be helpful to know how much RAM it has and the processor speed and size of HD.

However, as rokytnji alluded to, it is unlikely the regular Ubuntu would perform well on an XP machine.

Ubuntu has a few choices that would work better for you. Lubuntu is the lightest weight one and should be no problem for an XP machine. The next one is Xubuntu, which is the next one up on resources (if you have 1 GIG ram it is also a possibility. Also, and again if you have the one gig ram, another choice would be Mint 17 XFCE edition (this is basically the Mint version of Xubuntu, but perhaps more beginner friendly. And all of these have a desktop that will be more familiar to you; the regular Ubuntu would be quite different from XP.

I have an XP machine and did the same thing you are wanting to do just 3 months ago. In case you are unaware, it is also possible to do a dual boot, which would leave XP on the pc and give you a choice between the linux and XP every time you boot up.

Ditching IE was smart since it is unsupported in XP now, but there is nothing wrong with Chrome so I am not sure the reason you ditched that.

Hi My reason for ditching chrome was that on my husbands Window's 7 machine he was having slow patches. Since he started using Opera it has worked much faster.... As I say I am a total novice! I do have this machine which is running Window's 8 and there are no issues with Chrome on it. I have both Opera and Chrome on this Acer and it is functioning well. My old Compaq machine I would like to give to my grandson - give him another experience other than windows!
 
Old 07-26-2014, 06:24 AM   #9
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Good luck with it.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/54296...-and-the-amd64

I mentioned 32 bit because you say your ran XP for starters.

Your computer processor is maybe 64bit capable but to be safe. If I was you. I'd go with the 32 bit (i386 or i686) download since you have less than 4 gig of ram. I run old gear myself and 32bit gnu/linux runs just fine and dandy.

I would stay away from regular Ubuntu though.

If me in your shoes. I would go with (since Ubuntu base is preferred here) with

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation
Not sure that I prefer Ubuntu, it was the one I came on first! So you would look for ? for my download?

Great to find this helpful place - Thank you so much!
 
Old 07-26-2014, 06:28 AM   #10
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It would be helpful to know how much RAM it has and the processor speed and size of HD.

However, as rokytnji alluded to, it is unlikely the regular Ubuntu would perform well on an XP machine.

Ubuntu has a few choices that would work better for you. Lubuntu is the lightest weight one and should be no problem for an XP machine. The next one is Xubuntu, which is the next one up on resources (if you have 1 GIG ram it is also a possibility. Also, and again if you have the one gig ram, another choice would be Mint 17 XFCE edition (this is basically the Mint version of Xubuntu, but perhaps more beginner friendly. And all of these have a desktop that will be more familiar to you; the regular Ubuntu would be quite different from XP.

I have an XP machine and did the same thing you are wanting to do just 3 months ago. In case you are unaware, it is also possible to do a dual boot, which would leave XP on the pc and give you a choice between the linux and XP every time you boot up.

Ditching IE was smart since it is unsupported in XP now, but there is nothing wrong with Chrome so I am not sure the reason you ditched that.
Thank you. This is most helpful. I have no real computer knowledge - just as a user - although I started way back using computers in my work in a bank, I knew nothing of the internal (infernal!) workings! I will get to t his as soon as the family, grandchildren are all away!
 
Old 07-27-2014, 04:25 PM   #11
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Good luck with it.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/54296...-and-the-amd64

I mentioned 32 bit because you say your ran XP for starters.

Your computer processor is maybe 64bit capable but to be safe. If I was you. I'd go with the 32 bit (i386 or i686) download since you have less than 4 gig of ram. I run old gear myself and 32bit gnu/linux runs just fine and dandy.

I would stay away from regular Ubuntu though.

If me in your shoes. I would go with (since Ubuntu base is preferred here) with

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation
Hi
Intel Pentium M 1.70GHz
504MB of ram.

I guess the machine is too slow and not enough RAM
 
Old 07-27-2014, 04:41 PM   #12
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Intel Pentium M 1.70GHz
504MB of ram.
http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFW...KlXW5uE9opXukQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kCo...8DDQkBJ5YSfVrt

Quote:
antiX-13.2_386-full.iso
Quote:
antiX-13.2_386-full.iso.md5
http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Released/antiX-13.2/

Use the md5sum link I posted earlier to check AntiX downloaded iso integrity. Watch Run With The Dolphin Videos to learn how to install and other videos on how to connect wireless and samba shares.
Lots pf good info there on that channel. I am going through all of this because of your computer specs you finally posted.
The Mepis forums and AntiX forums are nice, helpful, easy going folks (like me).

Good luck with it again.

Edit: You are still going to kinda sorta run Ubuntu. But instead you will be installing Debian.
With multiple choice Window Managers (Fluxbox,Icewm,and JWM).
Fits on a cd and will be easy to install as making apple pie.

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Old 07-27-2014, 04:45 PM   #13
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Wink Big Thank you!

I might never get it but I like trying things that other folks I know would never try!!

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http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFW...KlXW5uE9opXukQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kCo...8DDQkBJ5YSfVrt





http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Released/antiX-13.2/

Use the md5sum link I posted earlier to check AntiX downloaded iso integrity. Watch Run With The Dolphin Videos to learn how to install and other videos on how to connect wireless and samba shares.
Lots pf good info there on that channel. I am going through all of this because of your computer specs you finally posted.
The Mepis forums and AntiX forums are nice, helpful, easy going folks (like me).

Good luck with it again.
 
Old 07-27-2014, 07:29 PM   #14
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In addition to the above suggestions, a good place to do some research on the various distributions of Linux is the distrowatch site at the link below. There are descriptions of various distributions and links to the home site of each where you can get more details. Since you know more than we do about the future use of the system, it's best if you read them rather than having us make recommedations as our computer use may not be the same as yours:

http://distrowatch.com/
 
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:38 AM   #15
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In addition to the above suggestions, a good place to do some research on the various distributions of Linux is the distrowatch site at the link below. There are descriptions of various distributions and links to the home site of each where you can get more details. Since you know more than we do about the future use of the system, it's best if you read them rather than having us make recommedations as our computer use may not be the same as yours:

http://distrowatch.com/
Thank you. My use of the older lap top is primarily to see if I can do this. I have always been curious about Linux and encourage my grandchildren to find out about how stuff works to help them. When my daughter was struggling with her O grade Physics Imstudied along with her. That was many years ago! Our pride when we both got top grade in the exam knew no bounds!

Many thanks!
 
  


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