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Old 11-24-2014, 09:19 AM   #1
Dojod
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Choosing Distro


Hello everyone,

I recently finished an education where we learned about servers, hardware, ws2008, ws2012 & CentOS.
In CentOS we learned how to install DHCP, DNS, configuring mail (postfix, squirrelmail, dovecot, etc...) blabla

Now, I want to setup a multiboot at home.
1 OS will be windows 8, other OS wil be linux.
I will use the linux for server-like purposes.

Now, the problem is choosing which linux.
As I said above, we worked with centos, I liked centos for being stable and would use centos again if it's a good distro. (even though installing mailserver was SHIT)
If I'm not mistaking, centos is gnome ?
Well, right now I want KDE.
I want to use linux to it's full extent. I do not crave for a user friendly GUI, I want a GUI where all the options are there for me and not having options hidden from me(like centos did sometimes)
I'm currently teaching myself python & ruby.
I began to do some research and decided I will use one of the following distro's: Fedora, debian, opensuse.

Would one of these be a good choice ?
Hoping you guys could help me out !

Thanks in advance
 
Old 11-24-2014, 10:08 AM   #2
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Try several distros by installing them to external drive or get a preview with unetbooin.

I would recommend that you put also latest version of Ubuntu server to your choices.
 
Old 11-24-2014, 10:14 AM   #3
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I am aware that ubuntu is a great distro.
I currently have one running in hyper-v.

But, I am also aware that alot of people say that it's full of spyware.
Also the imigration of amazon is something I don't like.

I do not want to be rude, but the point I'm asking these questions is because I don't want to test everything out.
Anyway, thanks for the response.
 
Old 11-24-2014, 11:00 AM   #4
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I began to do some research and decided I will use one of the following distro's: Fedora, debian, opensuse.
Hello, and welcome! Debian would be a great place to start, in my opinion.
 
Old 11-24-2014, 11:16 AM   #5
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CentOS has a KDE version. I wouldn't advise using any other desktop or window manager, but in my limited experience Red Hat / Fedora has always done a good KDE.

If you are used to the Red Hat way, stick with it and stay happy! Between using Fedora and settling on CentOS, I tried Debian — I fled after 3 weeks. Since then I've tested and reviewed umpteen versions of Debian and its derivatives, and I just can't love them.
 
Old 11-24-2014, 01:08 PM   #6
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Yes; CentOS comes withe the Gnome Desktop Manager.
I've never tried CentOS with KDE.
✴✴BTW, CentOS is the free version of RHEL.✴✴

Linux Mint is available with KDE.
I've heard from a handful of folks that Mint run quiet nicely.

A few people that came from Windows are happy with the Linux Mint I installed on their PC's.

Good luck to you:-
 
Old 11-24-2014, 01:46 PM   #7
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But, I am also aware that alot of people say that it's full of spyware.
Also the imigration of amazon is something I don't like.
Canonical is a business and they made this arrangement to make some money. All you need to do to disable it is explained in the link below and includes more than just the Amazon thing. I read a post recently by a moderator at the Ubuntu forums indicating they were dropping the agreement with Amazon but I don't know if that's a fact or if they've done it. I have it installed and disabled all these options but don't actually use it on a regular basis so don't keep up with what they are doing.

http://www.howtogeek.com/188589/5-th...ntu-14.04-lts/
 
Old 11-24-2014, 08:55 PM   #8
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I want to build on what Yancek said. Ubuntu is not full of spyware, at least not as the term is used in Windows world. Just for starts, it wasn't hidden.

Disgruntled Linux users used the term "spyware" to refer to Ubuntu's agreement with Amazon.

Now, I am not a fan of Ubuntu, at least not since Unity, nor am I a fan of Amazon, because of some of their business practices. Nevertheless, I found that calling the Amazon "lens" (I think that was Ubuntu's term) spyware to be--how shall I put this?--hysterical overstated hyperbole.

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Old 11-25-2014, 05:03 AM   #9
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Thanks for all the answers.
As I'm not quite sure what it will be, I will follow yooy's advice and try some of the distro's using USB.
As fedora & CentOS are both RHEL-based, I'm gonna stick with these.

Are any of these distro's well suited for learning python & ruby ?
I have no experience at all programming, so I have no clue.

Thx !
 
Old 11-25-2014, 06:05 AM   #10
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I'm not a programmer, but I should think learning python and ruby (or anything else) is the same on any distro.
 
Old 11-25-2014, 08:39 AM   #11
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I'm not a programmer, but I should think learning python and ruby (or anything else) is the same on any distro.
Your right.
Since I have been studying Python I have so far found that it performs and functions very much like C ++.

I've never used ruby:-

@Dojod:
Here's the link for the Python book by:O'Reilly
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920028659.do

And here's the ebook or you can read it online if you like.
http://it-ebooks.info/book/304/
 
Old 11-25-2014, 10:39 AM   #12
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Thanks Ztcoracat, but I'm currently using Zed A. Shaw's books.
They are very good for beginners.

Here's the link to his website.
http://c.learncodethehardway.org/

He's currently making the same book on C, but it's in alpha phase.
If there are other people willing to learn Python or Ruby, you should really check 'em out !

Thx !
 
Old 11-25-2014, 01:10 PM   #13
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Thanks Ztcoracat, but I'm currently using Zed A. Shaw's books.
They are very good for beginners.

Here's the link to his website.
http://c.learncodethehardway.org/

He's currently making the same book on C, but it's in alpha phase.
If there are other people willing to learn Python or Ruby, you should really check 'em out !

Thx !
Your Welcome; good luck!
 
Old 11-25-2014, 01:38 PM   #14
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Nevertheless, I found that calling the Amazon "lens" (I think that was Ubuntu's term) spyware to be--how shall I put this?--hysterical overstated hyperbole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware

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Spyware is software that aids in gathering information about a person or organization without their knowledge and that may send such information to another entity without the consumer's consent, or that asserts control over a computer without the consumer's knowledge.

"Spyware" is mostly classified into four types: system monitors, trojans, adware, and tracking cookies.[2] Spyware is mostly used for the purposes of tracking and storing Internet users' movements on the Web and serving up pop-up ads to Internet users.
Since Canonical does not tell the user during the installation of Ubuntu that it uses the search function in the OS to gather information about the user and sell it to a third party, nor is it an opt-in service that requires the user to agree before enabling that functionality, it is, by definition, spyware. You may not like that label for some reason, but it's certainly applicable.

ALL IT WOULD TAKE is for Canonical to put a simple, "Hey, is it alright if we use the operating system's built-in search function to sell information about you to a third party for a profit? Yes/No" the first time it's used, and they could have avoided all of the flak they've received over it. Opt-in services don't piss users off, opt-out services do, it's like they're trying to sneak it in without anybody noticing (which they probably are).

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