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Old 05-10-2014, 02:40 PM   #1
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Cant we form a OpenSource Music cloud?


Hey LQ,

Can't we form a private cloud filled with Music? No DRM applies FYI... it wud consist of our downloaded music n then we move on.... we need servers and I am ready to begin, who comes with me?

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Old 05-10-2014, 03:15 PM   #2
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I'm not sure about where you live but what I think you're suggesting would be illegal here.

If you're talking about music under the Creative Commons license, there are already services that let you stream it.

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Old 05-10-2014, 05:02 PM   #3
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It's not about where you live and what you do, it's about forming an alliance using your own collection of Music, everybody has that and nobody can take that right away from you, prove me wrong if I am, because everyone has their own collection and they are proud of it, atleast I am..

just a thought.

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It's not about where you live and what you do, it's about forming an alliance using your own collection of Music, everybody has that and nobody can take that right away from you, prove me wrong if I am, because everyone has their own collection and they are proud of it, atleast I am..
You're right - nobody can take the right to share music from you. It's because legally speaking you have no right to do it. So they can't take away what you don't have

Yes, it is everything to do with where you live. Each country has their own laws. Still in most (if not all) western countries, sharing your private collection of music with other people is breaking the law (unless it's under some permissive license).

Please note that encouraging to break the law is against the rules of this forum so my advice for you would be to stop doing it if you don't want to considerably reduce the life-span of this thread.
 
Old 05-10-2014, 05:19 PM   #5
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http://libre.fm/
 
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What libre shares with others is mainly your listening habits. The only audio files that it shares are from sources like Jamendo (Creative Commons License).

There are many music services out there: spotify, google play, slacker radio (I love the name), etc.
 
Old 05-10-2014, 05:56 PM   #7
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sycamorex,

With all due respect I know all these places because I spend majority of time on music, what I meant was someplace where we put our collection together, think like this, we have our own music (we all have our own, isn't it), we bring it together and people pour in and listen too

at an extent this violates all DRM rules, but nobody ever said we couldn't share what we have, did it?

Cheers..
 
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at an extent this violates all DRM rules, but nobody ever said we couldn't share what we have, did it?
That's exactly what they say.

You could share what you're listening to (ie. playlists = lists of songs you're listening to) but you are not allowed to share the actual music collection unless

a) the music you have was written and recorded by yourself
b) or it's under a permissive license, such as CC.

I really hope it's a case of misunderstanding and we are talking about different things. If not, I strongly suggest you catch up with current piracy laws. Doing a quick google search, I can safely assume that music piracy is against the law in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Music_Industry
http://www.radioandmusic.com/content...against-piracy

Please before you post another reply suggesting to break the law, read about the issue.

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Old 05-10-2014, 06:53 PM   #9
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nvm, I do understand your concerns.

Thanks
 
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"Downloaded Music" is a suspect term/definition.
 
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"Downloaded Music" is a suspect term/definition.
IMHO, that's not the most suspicious thing. Downloaded music can be perfectly legal. It's the sharing bit.

Regardless whether it's my legal downloaded music or my ripped music collection (I bought music CDs and ripped them for my private use - nothing wrong with it), it is illegal for me to share it with you or anyone else. Whether we think it's morally/ethically justified to ban it, it's irrelevant. It is against the law in most countries.
 
Old 05-11-2014, 01:16 AM   #12
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IMHO, that's not the most suspicious thing. Downloaded music can be perfectly legal. It's the sharing bit.
Yup, sharing is an unspeakable evil. Makes me want to puke. Thank god for our governments that are all doing everything in their power to stamp out all forms of sharing. We live in evil times!
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:08 AM   #13
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I've bought many CD's over the years. And I've ripped them to my hard disk. Illegal? Nope. I have also bought a lot of music from the iTunes Music Store which I could download from there. Illegal? Again no. So downloading music isn't always illegal.

However. Allowing others to download music from you is illegal.

Do I need to do it? No. Because next to the music that I've bought, I also have an account on the Rdio service (similar to Spotify). Not much music between them that I can't listen to.
 
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Yup, sharing is an unspeakable evil. Makes me want to puke. Thank god for our governments that are all doing everything in their power to stamp out all forms of sharing. We live in evil times!
fight irony with even more irony:
i also think they should remove shop windows, or at least make them so they can be opened from the outside.
what is it with all the glass between me and the goods? why don't they want to share them?
 
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Open Source/Free Software can do some neat things, but it's certainly not going to subvert the state's regulations. At least not that directly: there's already plenty of ways to get songs from The Cloud, though.

It's a hard problem because: A. you want music without jumping through horrible bureaucratic hoops and B. you also want to actually pay the musicians you listen to so they can continue to create more music. Slapping everyone's album into The Cloud solves one of those problems.

Services like youtube and grooveshark take some steps here: advertisements are split between the service provider and the content creator, because it's in the interest of both parties for the creators to keep making content to drive more traffic in. Further business options are taking down ads with a subscription, while splitting the income from that payment in a similar fashion.

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fight irony with even more irony:
i also think they should remove shop windows, or at least make them so they can be opened from the outside.
what is it with all the glass between me and the goods? why don't they want to share them?
You're equating sharing of electronic data, an infinitely duplicable resource, with the theft of a finite resource.
 
  


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