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Old 02-22-2006, 08:57 PM   #31
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Yet another for 357mag
To give the user non-sensical information for no reason is stupid. Look at Windows. You can't even install the OS unless you have the additional drivers...Look at the crappy blue screen (an ominous sign of what is to come ). Keep clicking like a zombie at every other screen. No internet, no video acceleration out of box if you use third party driver. Again, this is bad business (yes that is true, for windows though we are referred as a community). Linux doesn't do it, so Windows should DO IT.

I am surprised nobody has posted this link yet (or may be I missed it) here you go

Old 02-23-2006, 08:41 AM   #32
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it is a good thing microsoft says whats admin or support group

noone can say whaat is for you. linux is stable with uptimes going sometimes for 500 days. your best best is, like everyone said, a live cd or try a dual boot. when i did my install i didnt have to type any &@*(^$ odd scripts, it was point and click. mandriva configured sound and everything while windows did not.

wish you the best of luck and dont be scared to try new things. If you do get stuck you have a user name here and we will help you walk through it
Old 02-23-2006, 11:48 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by richardblade
I have looked into apple macintosh, but the prices are high, and configuration options are quite limited.
Certainly not all of the Apple prices are "high." I find them to be quite competitively priced, even the 'little brick' model. They are high-powered Unix machines and you just might want to take a much closer look ...

Basically what i would like to know is:
1. Does linux have a registry like windows?
Emphatically not. The registry has proven to be one of Windows' Achilles-heels. Linux uses discrete files stored in known locations. Some are flat-files; an increasing number use the XML format. The advantage here is that the files are separate. And, none of them are enormous.
2. Does linux get slower and bogged down like windows does after installing and uninstalling programs?
I haven't seen that ... and I would be quick to point out that Windows should not be doing that either! If you are experiencing poor performance from Windows, especially "after uninstalling programs," maybe there's a problem. Have you looked at the Event Viewer lately?
3. Is linux stable, and able to be left on for days?
Yes, and Windows should be able to do exactly the same thing.
4. I already know of a few reasons why linux is an alternative to windows, but i am hoping someone can give me some objective opinions on linux. It would be really good if the opinions were from people who have used or use both.
In my daily professional work, I use all three (Windows, OS/X, Linux). There's no doubt that I prefer the latter two. But all three of them are rock-steady stable for days and weeks on end. There are a few reasons, I think...
  • All of the systems are running current releases of their respective software and they are kept up-to-date at least twice a week.
  • I know exactly what software is on each machine, and what that software is used for.
  • Each machine has a well-organized user-account structure with three tiers: the One Root (or Administrator), which is never used except for operating-system maintenance; the Maintenance account which owns all of the non-kernel software; and the entirely non-privileged User accounts, which are not simply issued to "people" but in some cases are issued to those people "for the role(s) that they play in the company."
  • Any request for a root-password is never answered.
  • There are real, automatic on-disk backups, running constantly.
Every now and then, a rogue program will appear ... and bzzzZZt! ... it dies a quick death because it does not have the privileges that it needs to do what it would oh-so like to do.

I know that this is a Linux forum, but it's quite unfair to slam the Windows technology, especially when many of the problems attributed to Windows are caused by careless (or simply, uninformed) users running password-free Administrator accounts.
Old 02-23-2006, 12:17 PM   #34
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I used/use Windows for years both at work and at home. Many benefits. So many in fact that I still have 2 windoze machines at my house. This still does not stop me from having various *nix distros parked along side of my windoze machines. The reason I do this is because as has been stated before
stability (doesnt crash..take with a grain of salt you can crash a nix box)
reliability (will be up and running when I get home)
usability (too many cool things to list here, one being the dizzying array of WM)
configurabilty (almost everything is tweakable from a config file)
open source (wanna learn code? what better way)

These are just a few reasons I use *nix. There is no one reason why or in the case of the OP 4-5 reasons.

If I can make a comment on the funniest error message I ever recieved from a windoze machine.

Error! Internet Explorer is not under its own control!

This was just from opening the browser while not on any sort of network connection. That was just great, my buddy and I laughed for hours about that one.

Oh, one more reason why *nix is great.

Everyone here has valid points and I am sorry if I posted off topic or furthered(is that how its spelled?) a thread that maybe should not be this long.

Good day to all.
Old 02-23-2006, 02:21 PM   #35
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4. I already know of a few reasons why linux is an alternative to windows, but i am hoping someone can give me some objective opinions on linux. It would be really good if the opinions were from people who have used or use both.
I was a Windows user for many years before I came to Linux -- Since 3.1 through XP -- It's a fine OS as long as it's configured properly (For me that means all of the necessary 3rd party drivers, Virus Scanner, Software Firewall [Behind a router, but still paranoid.], and at least two AdWare/Spyware scanners.), and updated at least once a week (Virii definitions daily once or more.)
[[I keep on editing this post! I should think before I click 'save'....Nah!]]
Sure the registry is kind of convoluted, but with a bit of tweaking and light hacking you can add some great functionality to a Windows machine.

For me, GNU/Linux is a very decent OS -- I won't say great because I don't think the perfect OS will ever exist. It required a few tweaks when I first installed it -- mostly in creating and editing `/etc/X11/xorg.conf` I get the occasional PEBKAC error, but the solution is usually hiding behind a thorough google/LQ search. One thing I think GNU/Linux absolutely requires is patience. A healthy dose of calm dosn't hurt either.

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Old 02-23-2006, 03:47 PM   #36
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What are windowsdudes doing on this forum anyway :-) ??

The best thing about Linux... It might take a lot of your time, but only a few people in the world can use that as an argument since most of the thing we do are a waste of time :-) and one will learn a lot about computers(from a Nux point of view) unlike windows who just run... And when it does'nt you're effed... (Back to the best thing)

I've been using Linux for a couple of years now, and everytime i use MacOS or Windows(for music) i get fustrated when i have to do other stuff(Net, mail and laming) because in Nux, things are the way you want them to... It's your OS... Not Apple's or Microsoft's... Your's... And that's what i like the most...
Old 02-23-2006, 04:07 PM   #37
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My point of view: I have been using computers back when they didn't have colours, hard disks or mouses, first on DOS and then windows, since windows XP and then I switched to linux. I can tell you that only now I know that all these years I learnt nothing about windows. Every now and then something would go wrong (installing games, programs or just passing time) and I had to reinstall because nothing can be fixed, at least I never learnt how to do it. Registry problems I guess that I know that I will never know how it works or gets edited and I don't care.

I started using linux for fun and had nobody helping me except this forum and I can tell you in 2 years I know much more stuff about linux than windows. Linux is easy, because for every problem there is the solution. You might not find it yourself but once someone tells you how to do it you just learn it because there's logic behind it.

And from my girlfriend's point of view: She had never ever used a computer. First computer she has ever used was mine, linux with KDE and Gnome. Well she finds windows difficult. She has her account on my computer where I have put a pannel at the bottom of the screen with the applications she usally uses. That can't be done in windows, or I don't know how to do it. When using itunes in some friends computer she went on asking "So, how do you make it download lyrics?", "How can you make it play only suggested songs?".

And then you can do some seriously nice things, such as having two or three or more accounts running at the same time, for example I'm leaving my account on downloading on amule, with thunderbird and skype running on Gnome while she can switch to her account and listen to her music or surf the internet.

There are many things that linux does that windows users don't know that can be done and that's fun.

Conclusion: In my oppinion linux is fun, stable, virus-free, and easy.
Old 02-23-2006, 04:44 PM   #38
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Spyware, adware, malware, etc. Being considered the "computer guru" in the family {a rather easy title to attain in the Windows world} I grew tired of the bi-annual "cleansing of the disk" of my sister-in-law's laptop. Crudware everywhere! I put Fedora on and she hasn't had a problem since. No viruses, no spyware, no gradual loss of performance, no viruses. It just works. Day after day, dependably. Like any good machine should. For tons of stories just like it, check out Linux Success Stories right here on LQ.
Old 02-23-2006, 11:32 PM   #39
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Ok, I can also agree that the Windows NT series is decently stable.

HOWEVER, and this is the part that annoyed me to freaking tears. I installed win2k3 on this box here, and everything was working great. So I decided I'd start doing some work on this very box. Hmm, my NVidia card isn't supported very well with Win2k3. After some searching on the net, I find out it's not my card, but rather DirectX. I can't get anything DirectX related to run on Win2k3. There was no gaming, and every single time I opened an office application, a friggin installation box opened up. EVERY time.

I found out later that Win2k3 is not supposed to do any kind of things like that. A couple of snickers on forums, and I realized that if Win2k3 is installed, then forget about using it as a workstation.

So I reformatted my hard drive, and just when I was going to reinstall Windows, I thought I'd give Slackware a try. Remember, Linux is a multiprocessing system. I can write a program, listen to some music, surf the web, and do some file serving as well. Much more functionality than Win2k3, and with Samba I can have Slackware do the exact same thing as Win2k3, and still use it as a workstation.

So yes, if you really want to have a box that you can't do anything but serve files and printing resources, then go with Win2k3. If you want to be able to use your machine for work as well, then get Linux.


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