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Old 07-15-2020, 05:31 PM   #1
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Can’t Update Software Packages in OpenSUSE


Hello,

I’m still new to oST and getting familiar with it (though not new to Linux). Currently running oST w/KDE.

My system frequently says that it encounters an error when checking for software packages. I force a refresh and it finds them. It’s been a couple of days (I thought I updated a day or so ago) but I noticed today that it keeps saying that I still have 596 packages to update - even though I keep selecting install updates on the KDE system tray tool (sorry if that’s the wrong name). I think this was also happening when I updated a day or two ago and why it didn’t work but I didn’t realize I was encountering issues. I finally found an error in the KDE notifications and it says:

problem with installed package libavcodec58-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64
problem with installed package libavdevice58-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64
problem with installed package libavfilter7-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64
problem with installed package libavformat58-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64
problem with installed package libavutil56-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64
problem with installed package libpostproc55-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64
problem with installed package libswresample3-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64
problem with installed package libswscale5-4.2.3-4.4.x86_64

So, I tried to look through the list of packages on the KDE software update tool and un-select these so I could at least update the rest of the packages but it didn’t seem to work. I went to YaST and went to both Online Updates and Software Management hoping to be able to do the updates from YaST but no updates are showing up. I watched some videos on YT to try to learn about how to use YaST and figure out what I’m doing wrong. These show going to the area that I went to (Online Updates) and they showed a bunch of updates right away but mine doesn’t - even though there are nearly 600 of them.

I feel like such an idiot. I can’t seem to do the simplest of things and things that I would expect to work (like updating via YaST) aren’t working as expected. I’m sure it’s all me and I’m not blaming oS or YaST or anything else but that doesn’t make it any less frustrating or any easier to figure out.

With the specific above problems, I searched for some of the titles in YaST and I’m showing, for instance, libavcodec58 the installed version is 4.2.3-4.4 and the available version is 4.2.3-1.1 - same for libavdevice58 and I’m sure all the others. I was told to install Packman repos when I did the install (which I did) using the simple OBS/Opi command line method - which worked like a charm. It said it was replacing some of the installed versions with the new repo, which I let it do. Is there some glitch that’s screwing this up?

Why am I not seeing all my other updates in YaST? I thought I should always be able to do updates in YaST rather than having to use the KDE system tray tool - not that I mind that if it actually works. But I’ve heard so many awesome things about YaST that I assumed I could update there. I’m at a loss as to why I’m not seeing the updates on my system that I did on the videos.

Thanks in advance for any help. I’m so lost. Really looking forward to you replies.

EDIT: I decided to search for the first couple of software packages listed in the KDE update tray notification within YaST. I found ImageMagick and saw that each item had a green check mark by it but showed a newer available package. I manually clicked on each green check mark and it changed to the blue update icon. I clicked accept and it informed me of some dependency updates, I agreed and let it update. I refreshed the KDE update tray tool and it saw that ImageMagick was indeed updated and removed it from the list. I’m only mentioning this because, in a sense, I was able to perform an update via YaST but only by manually searching and forcing the update. It wasn’t even selected to update when I searched, even though it clearly “saw” that updates were available. Is there a setting somewhere that’s not turned on or that should have been turned on during the install that maybe a glitch prevented from happening? I can’t manually search and select 596 packages every few days. This may not be helpful info but I wanted to share in case it is - and I’m really trying to put in the work to figure this all out.
 
Old 07-15-2020, 09:30 PM   #2
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Please try to stay on point when asking a question. Here, you mix errors in installed packages, KDE vs Yast, feeling stupid, automatically upgrading packages, and I have no idea why you suddenly mention Pacman, the Archlinux package manager, if you run OpenSuse.

To answer the question about automatically updating packages that have new versions available, perhaps https://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Online_Update helps.

By the way, what is oST?
 
Old 07-16-2020, 12:32 AM   #3
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I have no idea why you suddenly mention Pacman, the Archlinux package manager
He made no mention of Pacman. http://packman.links2linux.de/ is where openSUSE users get various packages that licensing issues don't permit getting from official openSUSE repos.
 
Old 07-16-2020, 12:41 AM   #4
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Is there some glitch that’s screwing this up?
It's a common one. TW repos commonly get ahead of Packman's ability to keep up with changes. Wait anywhere between several hours and several days and Packman should be caught up so that the Packman updates can match the dependency requirements.
 
Old 07-16-2020, 01:07 AM   #5
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He made no mention of Pacman. http://packman.links2linux.de/ is where openSUSE users get various packages that licensing issues don't permit getting from official openSUSE repos.
Oops, thanks for the correction.
 
Old 07-16-2020, 02:34 AM   #6
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By the way, the advice from opensuse is that you always update with
Code:
zypper dup
 
Old 07-16-2020, 05:14 PM   #7
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varaonaid,

I read your earlier post:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...9/#post6144717


Tumbleweed is more for Advanced users.

Earlier self did try Tumbleweed, and found it's ongoing changes difficult for myself to keep up with, so returned to using openSUSE (now on Leap 15.2).


Then I re-installed openSUSE Leap 15.2 to replace Tumbleweed.




BTW I really do appreciate those using Tumbleweed for their significant contribution to the stable openSUSE for other users :-)


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Old 07-16-2020, 05:23 PM   #8
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It's a common one. TW repos commonly get ahead of Packman's ability to keep up with changes. Wait anywhere between several hours and several days and Packman should be caught up so that the Packman updates can match the dependency requirements.
Agree with this 100%. I had the same issue today on one of my systems, so I cancelled the update and am just going to wait.
 
Old 07-16-2020, 05:30 PM   #9
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I have no idea why you suddenly mention Pacman
I read that as Packman.

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By the way, what is oST?
That took me a second. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed

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