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Old 06-16-2005, 08:16 PM   #1
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Can't find HD on crashed Window$ system...


Of course my Window$ OS crashed with an amazing uptime of 3 months this time. However when I try to use knoppix to find the HD and backup my info it won't find or open anything. I should still be able to find files on a NTFS HD to backup right? How do I do this? It's a new Dell running XP, I just need to back up the files I have saved over the past few months.

THANKS A LOT!
 
Old 06-16-2005, 08:26 PM   #2
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Well, if it is a separate HD then it would be on /dev/hdb Knoppix is usually pretty good at mounting file systems but the NTFS will be read only.

type:
mount

and see what is already mounted and at what points.

also:
sudo fdisk -l

will list all your drives so you can find your NTFS system so you can go from there.

Also maybe the crash was more servier then you thought and the HD is toast...

KC
 
Old 06-16-2005, 08:26 PM   #3
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If knoppix can't see it the HDD most likely died.
 
Old 06-16-2005, 09:36 PM   #4
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I've never had a crash so bad I couldn't pull any info out of it! If that's the case I hate window$ even more then I thought if that's possible! What I see in Knoppix on the desktop is three HD partitions sda1, sda2, sda3.. When I open a term and type mount I see dha as the cdrom and I don't see anything else that looks like a HD at all. If I type sudo fdisk I get something showing the 160 gig HD the system has and it's under /dev/sda... If I go to home it opens konqueror and if I try to type that in when I hit enter it asks what I want to open it with. How should I be accessing /dev/sda?

THANKS!
 
Old 06-17-2005, 07:43 AM   #5
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Come on somebody has to know this! I can't think a HD would be so fried that you can't pull anything off it.....
 
Old 06-17-2005, 09:49 AM   #6
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You say that sda is your hdd which is crashed right?


So your partitions are sda1, sda2 and sda3. You cannot mount /dev/sda
if you want to mount you partitions in a console then start konsole
Code:
# cd ~
# mkdir p1
# mkdir p2
# mkdir p3
# mount /dev/sda1 ~/p1
# mount /dev/sda2 ~/p2
# mount /dev/sda3 ~/p3
# cd p1
# ls -la
then you schould see something.

Other way (may not work)
In konqueror type "media:/" and then klick on the drive symbols. then kde schould automatically mount the partition.
 
Old 06-17-2005, 07:27 PM   #7
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When I try to mount it tells me only root can do that, then when I type SU and try to do it that way it tells me that does not exist. Anyway, it's a SATA HD could that be the issue?
 
Old 06-17-2005, 11:17 PM   #8
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Somebody has to know this don't they?
 
Old 06-18-2005, 12:06 AM   #9
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Okay, when I do fdisk this is what I get:

root@ubuntu:~/p1 # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160000000000 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19452 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 6 48163+ de Dell Utility
/dev/sda2 * 7 19093 153316327+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3 19094 19452 2883667+ db CP/M / CTOS / ...


When I try to mount sda2 I get this:
root@ubuntu:~ # mount /dev/sda2 ~/p2
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
missing codepage or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
dmesg | tail or so

Now somebody has to know what the issue is here and how the hell I an mount these and burn a backup DVD.... Please help, I've been waiting on this and trying different things for 3 days now.
 
Old 06-18-2005, 12:24 AM   #10
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as root.....

# mkdir /mnt/windows
# mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows
 
Old 06-18-2005, 05:33 AM   #11
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THIS IS WHAT I GET:

root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mkdir /mnt/windows
root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2/mnt/windows
Usage: mount -V : print version
mount -h : print this help
mount : list mounted filesystems
mount -l : idem, including volume labels
So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
The command is `mount [-t fstype] something somewhere'.
Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
mount -a [-t|-O] ... : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
mount device : mount device at the known place
mount directory : mount known device here
mount -t type dev dir : ordinary mount command
Note that one does not really mount a device, one mounts
a filesystem (of the given type) found on the device.
One can also mount an already visible directory tree elsewhere:
mount --bind olddir newdir
or move a subtree:
mount --move olddir newdir
A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
or by label, using -L label or by uuid, using -U uuid .
Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd].
For many more details, say man 8 mount .


I'm sort of at a total loss here.... I've tried all I can think of and I'm still stuck.. I've never had this issue before, is it just because it's a SATA hd?
 
Old 06-18-2005, 11:25 AM   #12
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You forgot to put a space before the /mnt/windows
You put:
root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2/mnt/windows

You need:
root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows
 
  


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