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Old 11-25-2011, 08:30 AM   #1
Kannykiwi
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Unhappy Brand New Computer. Will not install OS.


Hi, This is the first time I have to ask for help. Usually the answers I look for are somewhere around the internet.

As newbie to linux after using a Windows-Ubuntu duo for about a year I decided to switch, as I needed a new laptop anyway, I bought myself a new Acer Aspire 4755G-2432G75Mn notebook with a pre-installed Linux OS.



No problems except the OS was on a Live pre-installed CD as I found out after trying to follow the installation instructions. The 'Acers Users Manual' is on the computers desktop - out of my reach.

Following the steps in the setup poster: #1 Unpack #2 Input Battery #3 Connect adapter and plug in.

#4 Switch On. #5 Press Fn + F3 ( Wireless Connection ) No operating system = no conection. Plugged into Ethernet wont work - same reason.

After step #5 FN + F3 the screen shows black with lines of code scrolling down for ages until it comes up with this:

Linpus Linux LiveCD Edition v9.2 b110329av8

[root@localhost /]# _

Not knowing enough to finish the install or sign myself in as a user I am sad to say I'm the not so proud owner of a computer with a flashing cursor asking me something I am unable to answer.

Needless to say the last step #6 Follow onscreen instuctions to complete setup. Never happened.

I am using a Live Ubuntu 11.10 in the Acer with an ethernet connection to get on line, can save replies to a usb key.

Any help would be much appreciated thanks a lot, but please remember I am a very green newbie so please use little words. Cheers Donald. (KannyKiwi) kiwidon@gmx.com

Last edited by Kannykiwi; 11-25-2011 at 08:37 AM.
 
Old 11-25-2011, 08:40 AM   #2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kannykiwi View Post

After step #5 FN + F3 the screen shows black with lines of code scrolling down for ages until it comes up with this:

Linpus Linux LiveCD Edition v9.2 b110329av8

[root@localhost /]# _

Not knowing enough to finish the install or sign myself in as a user I am sad to say I'm the not so proud owner of a computer with a flashing cursor asking me something I am unable to answer.
That sounds like the install completed and you are at the command prompt as root ready to go. Like a dos box in windows or a terminal in ubuntu, but you have nothing else as yet.

Last edited by porphyry5; 11-25-2011 at 08:57 AM. Reason: add last sentence
 
Old 11-25-2011, 09:13 AM   #3
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Why don't you install that Ubuntu you have? If it is running fine from the live cd then it will run as fine after installed!
 
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:22 AM   #4
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I am using a Live Ubuntu 11.10 in the Acer with an ethernet connection to get on line,
Should I infer from the above phrase the common problem that Ubuntu doesn't provide by default correct support for the notebook's wireless network adapter?

I'm pretty sure you can install Ubuntu, then use your wired connection to download whatever is needed to get Ubuntu to support the wireless connection. I expect there are more details in other threads here at LQ. Usually you need to start with hardware info tools, such as lspci to get exact brand and model info on the wireless hardware. I don't know more than that myself. I don't use wireless on any of my Linux systems.

I've never tried to use Linux pre-installed by Acer. But from what I've read in other threads at LQ and other forums, I get the idea it isn't generally the best choice to use it at all. Select a different Linux distribution and install that from CD. I don't know the specs of that notebook, so I don't know whether Ubuntu would be too "heavy" for general use. If installed Ubuntu performance is OK, sticking with what you know seems like a good idea. LiveCD performance can be terrible even if installed performance will be good, so don't judge by the liveCD performance.

A google search on the model name you listed indicates at least some of that model include 2GB ram and 750GB hard drive. At that level no Linux distribution should be considered "too heavy".

Last edited by johnsfine; 11-25-2011 at 09:31 AM.
 
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:27 AM   #5
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You might try typing the command 'startx' without the quote marks then hit enter.

If no results try 'live' without the quotes.

If it asks for a password try 'root'
 
Old 11-25-2011, 09:38 AM   #6
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OK this might be the best for you a notebook version of ubuntu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubu...86.iso.torrent , note that the 10.04 version has long term support.
this is download page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubunt...load#alternate

Regards

Last edited by ukiuki; 11-25-2011 at 09:39 AM. Reason: typo
 
Old 11-26-2011, 01:41 AM   #7
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IF linux is installed and it sounds like it is
IF startx gets you to the GUI
THEN
you need to edit /etc/initab
and change
# Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
id:3:initdefault:
TO
# Default runlevel. (Do not set to 0 or 6)
id:4:initdefault:
OR
id:5:initdefault:

I run slackware my default run level to boot into the GUI is 4
some distros use run level 5 to boot to the GUI

IF you have mc (midnight commander) installed I would suggest you use it's built in editor to make the change
it comes pretty close to M$'s note pad text editor

try the command "mc" hit F1 to get to the help for mc

last note be vary careful with mc in the /etc directory you can wreck the system with it

and you will need root access to make this change

without being able to run a GUI based web browser how do you know the wifi is not working
it may be working at the command line try "links -g" IF it starts up try
hitting g then type in "www.linuxquestions.org"

Last edited by rob.rice; 11-26-2011 at 02:04 AM.
 
Old 11-26-2011, 01:59 AM   #8
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Don't waste any time with that Linpus OS, it is useless. It is a place holder OS, like how Dell and others use FreeDOS. No one expects you to use it, there is no GUI, the hardware is not configured and it is way out of date.

Install a modern, mainstream distribution and forget Linpus existed.

Microsoft made a deal with the OEMs, every computer they sell must include an OS, whether or not it is Windows. Selling them with Linpus or FreeDOS is their way of selling a computer without a Windows license to allow you to install the OS of your choice.

This OS is in no way related to Linpus Lite that was based on Fedora and used on the early Acer Aspire One models.
 
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:26 AM   #9
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Unhappy Brand new computer wont load OS

Quote:
Posted by jhonsfine
Should I infer from the above phrase the common problem that Ubuntu doesn't provide by default correct support for the notebook's wireless network adapter?

The Acer Aspire 4755G-2432G75Mn notebook with a pre-installed Linux OS is shipped with the fault in it's installation program.

There must be others out there with the same problem I have - so it's only a matter of waiting until the answer goes on line.

Having to send it off and have someone else do setup #6 ( "Follow onscreen instructions to complete set up." ) is not going to happen.

I am using a Live Ubuntu 11.10 in the Acer Aspire with an ethernet connection to get on line, and can save downloads to a usb key.

If I'm unable to use the pre-installed 'Linpus Linux LiveCD Edition v9.2 b110329av8' and put in Ubuntu Live would I have a full Operating System?

including drivers, dlls, etc? or would it install itself along side the pre-installed 'Linpus Linux LiveCD and use theirs.

Maybe they dont intermix - the ethernet cable is ignored by the pre-installed Linpus Linux LiveCD - but answers to the booted Ubuntu Live CD.

Any help will be greatly appreciated thanks a lot, please remember to use little words I am a very green newbie.

Cheers Donald. (KannyKiwi) kiwidon@gmx.com

Last edited by Kannykiwi; 11-26-2011 at 02:51 AM. Reason: replaced quote
 
Old 11-26-2011, 02:39 AM   #10
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We don't know what your wireless adapter is yet, but it is likely able to work under Ubuntu. Post the output of lspci from the terminal from Ubuntu so we can see what the chipset is. It might just need some firmware that is not open source and can't be included with Ubuntu.

Like I said, forget Linpus exists, it is a dead end.

Last edited by elliott678; 11-26-2011 at 02:42 AM.
 
Old 11-26-2011, 08:39 AM   #11
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You quoted my question, but didn't answer it at all.

I'll try more clearly: Why did you use an ethernet cable instead of the notebook's wireless adapter when using the Ubuntu CD to access the internet?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kannykiwi View Post
The Acer Aspire 4755G-2432G75Mn notebook with a pre-installed Linux OS is shipped with the fault in it's installation program.
It sounds more like the pre-installed Linux is installed but useless. Best to overwrite it with a decent Linux distribution.

Quote:
There must be others out there with the same problem I have - so it's only a matter of waiting until the answer goes on line.
The answer is already online in several other threads here at LQ: Forget the Acer pre-installed Linux and use a real distribution.

Quote:
Having to send it off and have someone else do setup #6 ( "Follow onscreen instructions to complete set up." ) is not going to happen.
Nor should it.

Quote:
I am using a Live Ubuntu 11.10 in the Acer Aspire with an ethernet connection to get on line
I'm pretty sure the same Ubuntu CD that can boot up in liveCD mode also includes a Ubuntu install program so it can be used to install Ubuntu onto your hard drive. That is what you should do.

Quote:
If I'm unable to use the pre-installed 'Linpus Linux LiveCD Edition v9.2 b110329av8' and put in Ubuntu Live would I have a full Operating System? including drivers, dlls, etc?
It might take some extra effort to get the wireless adapter working (so you could use the internet through your home or office wireless network, and use coffee shop, airport, hotel, etc. wireless access points). You've already discovered the Ubuntu default choice for display driver, ethernet driver and CD driver all work properly. Nothing else on a notepad computer would need an obscure driver.

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would it install itself along side the pre-installed 'Linpus Linux LiveCD and use theirs.
You could use the GUI partitioning program on the Ubuntu CD to shrink the installed Linpus partition(s) down to minimal size, then install Ubuntu on the rest of the hard drive. That would preserve Linpus in case you want to mess with it again later. But Ubuntu still needs its own drivers. It cannot use the ones in Linpus. If you don't want to mess with Linpus later, you can select a choice in the Ubuntu installer that uses the entire hard drive replacing everything that was there before.
 
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