booting USB in grub when BIOS does not support it
I wanted to ask
Is it possible that grub can load usb driver because BIOS of my computer is 10 or more years older. Currently in grub if I run root (<press tab> I get fd0 hd0 meaning so far floppy & hard disk can be accessed. I am using ubuntu 8.04 . |
Short answer - no.
Full and robust USB support relies on BIOS support. If you want USB, then you need to get a motherboard that supports USB. 'Hope that helps .. PSM |
Is it possible to have boot manager on hard disk which loads USB driver.
I tried plop (http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html) but did not work in my case. Can you suggest anything which you have seen working ? |
Start with wakepup from puppylinux.
The issue may not be grub but may be iso versus syslinux. |
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If your computer does not support booting from USB, that's it..you CAN'T boot from USB. Either update your hardware, upgrade your BIOS, or boot from something else. |
What exactly happened when you tried to use Plop to boot usb?
did you install plop to mbr or just use the plop executable? |
Plop worked great for me on an old computer without bios support to boot usb. upgraded to usb2 with a pci card and was able to boot the usb2 with plop also.
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to linus72 and colorpurple21859
You give me hope. OK . I will tell what i did. i have dual boot of ubuntu-8.04 and windows-xp on my pentim3 , 1GHz processor with 384MB RAM. I decided to use plpgenbtldr-0.7.zip (so that my grub remains as it is )& did as told in readme.txt about editing boot.ini in windows xp. Code:
plpgenbtldr v0.7 20090804 - generate boot manager loader, by Elmar Hanlhofer 'press ctrl+esc if you can read this' Then in menu of cd , hard disk, floppy, usb. I select 'usb' Then system hangs up with message. loading ehci driver searching on host1 I tried it on 2GB & 4GB USB stick of sandisk. colorpurple21859 , if you can tell what software you used to create bootable USB & iso image of distro . I will do the same & get good result. to jefro I wanted to do without cd while I removed my floppy drive long ago. |
used plopboot to boot puppy linux installed on usb. Holding down the ctrl key while selecting usb boot helps keep plopboot from hanging.
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You CAN boot computers via usb that do not support a usb bootable device in bios.
First of all start with a well known disto. You have to start at the most likely working disto to begin with. Takes all of 10 minutes. Get puppy and make wakepup. What happens? You need some bootable media supported by your bios. If cd is supported then dd a floppy to an image and burn it as track 1 and you have a bootable cd that will work usually. Otherwise there are ways to boot most computers that have some sort of usb native. It may never support an add on card. But it could in some computers. As to your distro I would need to learn more on how it normally boots. There are other ways to get a system booted too. Boot to pxe/gpxe/rom that has enough code to further boot to a usb drive. Some bootable media has to teach your computer just enough to boot from CD since the bios can't. That is all there is to it. As I said before you also need to know if your system has issues with syslinux/isolinux. |
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OK, we are disagreeing on a very good point. Does one boot to usb when no native support in bios. NO. Does one have an old computer then they want to boot to some cd. Yes. It can be done but cheating it. I'll agree that you are technically correct but not exactly what the OP asked.
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I have downloaded lupu-501.iso . I will try that.
I wanted to avoid cd because it gets scratch when used & every time you have to boot USB , you must insert cd . Booting via hard disk & loading USB driver then booting USB is a bright idea . |
Finally , I figured out my problem . it was not about the distro or software I use to create bootable USB. And the great thing is I can boot from USB .
I have a hard disk with dual boot of 'windows xp' and 'ubuntu' . In boot.ini of windows drive , I added entry of plop . Plop loads USB drivers making my computer similiar to present USB-boot enabled BIOS. Code:
it is tricky to boot USB because many times system hangs. Also tiny core ran smooth. For plop get plpgenbtldr-0.7.zip from http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanagerdl.html This can help those who have old BIOS.Like in my case , when i bought my computer it did not have any USB port then i bought a card & jacked it in PCI slot for USB ports. |
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