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Old 04-16-2008, 08:43 PM   #16
nick-perla
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Talking Ubuntu


Ubuntu is great
It is easy to install, and not boring like windows, you can surf the web while you install
It is very fun to play around with, you can run Compiz Fusion without upgrading your graphics card (unlike windows vista) :-(

And it is totally free!
 
Old 04-16-2008, 09:04 PM   #17
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programming in ubuntu is no big deal. Once it's installed,

sudo apt-get install build-essential

It contains common compilers and other programming tools. You can easily search synaptic for other programming tools....like I say....18,000 + packages...the debian repositories are freaking huge....

java is easy to install. Python, Ruby, and Perl are installed by default.

The gedit, nano, and vim editors are installed by default. Emacs is easy to install.

Last edited by ehawk; 04-16-2008 at 09:24 PM.
 
Old 04-17-2008, 12:12 AM   #18
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Ever tried a source code install without those
and no web connection?
What I'm saying is that Ubuntu is to Linux as
OSX is to BSD. Yes technically it is but it
hides it.
Yes it has its uses (offices, schools, e cafs)
but You'll only get the GNOME feel, not Linux its
self.
 
Old 04-17-2008, 11:50 AM   #19
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build-essential is on the installation CD, so even without a internet connection, it can be installed using apt-get. The other packages may be as well.

If you don't like gnome, you can install KDE or any other window manager easily using synaptic. You can get as under-the-hood with Ubuntu as you can any other distro. You just aren't forced to.
 
Old 04-17-2008, 01:13 PM   #20
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I have first used Red hat

but it is not suited for desktop or as a workstation though server administration may be easy by using its own tools. The appearance is odd. also Installation takes a long time

About SUSE, the interface is very much attractive very pleasing appearance
also graphical configuration like Yast are well organised than any distro
but with deficiency of speed. It is very slow (because of nice graphics - may be) and does not work graphics in low machines like PI.

Then comes the debian - looks better than redhat but not as much as SUSE.

very much standardised - a large collection of packages

No doubt debian is the best suited for Server as well as client
 
Old 04-17-2008, 02:19 PM   #21
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After a while of using Ubuntu, and after you get a good feel for linux, you should move up to more advanced distros.
 
Old 04-17-2008, 04:17 PM   #22
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After a while of using Ubuntu, and after you get a good feel for linux, you should move up to more advanced distros.
Just curious which distro you would describe as "advanced". All Linux distros use the Linux kernel at its core and everything else distro-oriented is built on top of it. I have used many, many distros (still use many more than one), but I find Ubuntu just as "Linux" as any other. If by advanced you mean that most everything must be command-line configured instead of GUI based, that does not really mean "advanced", just lacking a the GUI tools. I recently installed Unbuntu Hardy Beta on a new laptop and it was difficult to configure in a couple of areas. But it was Linux, and I "command-lined" my way through it.

Ubuntu is Linux. Linux is more advanced than Windows. Unbuntu is advanced just as Linux is advanced.

Regards

Bob
 
Old 04-17-2008, 04:18 PM   #23
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Soooooo sorry for the multiple posts... hopfully a mod will notice and delete them. As I mentioned, I am using a beta version of Firefox 3 and it froze on me, creating these posts.
 
Old 04-17-2008, 05:13 PM   #24
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I've fiddled with linux numerous times over the last 5 or 6 year and never really done more than get my feet wet. However I spent some time learning VMWare Server over the past couple of months and I have had great success learning linux with Ubuntu (both a desktop install and a server install) in VMWare.

Basically you just obtain a VMWare license key, install it, then create a blank machine. Give it some disk and boot it up. It can use your CD drive or map an ISO file as the CD drive. Linux install was clean and easy. My current project is creating a File/Print server that I can drop onto an already deployed windows box, integrated into AD. So far so good.

Smooth, and no annoying dual boot. Just run them both at the same time. :-)
 
Old 04-18-2008, 06:55 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by linkmaster03 View Post
I would like to get a Linux distro installed on my computer to dualboot with Vista. Because, Vista sucks hard. These are a few wants:

Video editing (if possible)

Can be on Live CD or not
Works good with this processor: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9VY

Ability to install Flash + Java

Common and supported among the Linux community, for help etc.


I am good with computers generally, I've been playing around with the Linux terminal on my Nintendo DS rofl. Can you guys recommend a good distro for me?
Yes, I would say go to ubuntu they have a great community, Which i have to say Linux overall has a good community. You could use Wine which is a application were you could run windows application on Linux. Now not all of the application will work. You could check it out at Wine's Website

As for a Desktop Session you could either go with Kubuntu or Ubuntu which Kubuntu is using the KDE Desktop Environment which screenshots could be seen here.

Or you could check out the Gnome desktop which the screenshots could be seen here.

I see you wanted to do some video editing you could use a application called Cinelerra which is a good piece of a software. Used it for some of the video editing I have done recently. There is a Video Podcast out there called The Source Show and every thing they use is open source application and they do a heck of a great job as well. So you might want to also check that out. As for the Distro they are using I'm not sure.

So Check that out.
 
Old 04-18-2008, 03:06 PM   #26
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Just curious which distro you would describe as "advanced".
Yes, I was talking about text based. You don't have to be so rude about it. More advanced distros mean customization to the max, which translates into speed and getting that junk out of ur system that you don't need. If I want XFCE on a linux system, it's a little difficult to do on Ubuntu. A more advanced system would be like Arch or Gentoo. Something that you can build from the ground up. I was only saying that he doesn't have to go Vanilla with his linux system.

I was also saying that he shouldn't use these distros until he gets used to the command line in Ubuntu. (Command line is more efficient than a GUI in many ways anyways.)

BTW, my first Distro was Fedora. I liked it, but it was VERY SLOW compared to Arch Linux (a more advanced distro), what I run now.
 
Old 04-18-2008, 03:08 PM   #27
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Just curious which distro you would describe as "advanced".
Advanced = The average noob can not use it.
 
Old 04-18-2008, 03:19 PM   #28
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If you want XFCE as your window manager in Ubuntu (and didn't install Xubuntu), I would think something like

apt-get install xfce4

would give you the option:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/xfce4

Or just install Xubuntu to begin with

You could also just open the synaptic front-end for apt-get and do a search for xfce packages, and install them.

Last edited by ehawk; 04-18-2008 at 03:26 PM.
 
Old 04-18-2008, 04:59 PM   #29
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If I want XFCE on a linux system, it's a little difficult to do on Ubuntu.
whats so hard with selecting the xubuntu-desktop metapakage from synaptic,
(likewise the kubuntu-desktop pakage to install kde)

thease pakages will insatll everything you need. as if you had started with Xubuntu in the first place, (but you can stll choose gnome from the login screen)
 
Old 04-19-2008, 11:26 AM   #30
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Debian and Ubuntu worked great for me. I did have one issue with Debian upgrading from Etch to SID (libdejavu) but then SID is two levels of testing away from "stable" so issues are just a tad on the expected side. Installing and running Debian Etch (stable) was almost a no-brainer.

Ubuntu was just as easy to install and run (it is a Debian derivitive I believe).

Fedora 8, on the other hand, was a total nightmare. I downloaded the 3+ gigabyte version overnight (save time while actually sitting in front the the computer) and then did a customized install which failed due to unresolved dependencies. I tried three times choosing different features and every time it failed. I eventually just let it do the default installation which succeeded.

As soon as I logged into the desktop I was greeted with a message saying there were more than 290 updates waiting (jeez, when was the last time they updated the installer?). So I started the update process which immediately failed with dependency problems. I spend the next four hours almost randomly picking single packages to update over and over until I found one that didn't die because it depended on something that wasn't listed for installation until much later.

At the four hour mark I just gave up and re-installed Debian etch then upgraded to sid. This entire process only has one big goof-up and thats dejavulibre15 and dejavulibre21 - both want to play with the same file so the upgrade fails. I just remove 15 before trying to upgrade (takes out gnome and a few other things but dist-upgrade seems to put it all back). This might already be fixed and, unless you're going to use unstable or testing versions, won't affect you in the least anyway.
 
  


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