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Novatian 09-03-2012 04:45 AM

Best desktop environment for Compiz?
 
Good day, what is the best desktop for running compiz, and inside compiz maybe Libre Office and some video editing...?

abrinister 09-03-2012 07:22 AM

Depending on how hefty your computer is, you can go with Mate. If you want something more lightweight, try LXDE. It's also very customizable and looks nice with Compiz after some configuration.

Alex Brinister

TobiSGD 09-03-2012 07:24 AM

Try Ubuntu with Unity, it is already running Compiz. Besides that, you don't need a DE to run Compiz, you can run it standalone.

Novatian 09-03-2012 08:08 AM

Yes, I liked my trial run of Knoppix and Compiz with LXDE. Based on Debian I hear. I am also interested in why Xfce is so popular?

Does enlightenment run Compiz?

I never before heard of Compiz as DE. That must come in a the original image, download? Or is it a big tweak?

abrinister 09-03-2012 08:27 AM

Enlightenemnt is a windowing manager, like Compiz. You cannot run them together.

Compiz can be run standalone as a windowing manager. You don't really need a DE to run a GUI. Only a windowing manager. That's why Enlightenment, Openbox, and others are very popular.

Alex Brinister

Novatian 09-03-2012 08:32 AM

So what is the advantage of a DE? Why so much work? And do some programs, applications, need a certain DE? Is there a tutorial on how to replace, say, KDE, with Compiz?

How does Openbox or Flubox compare with Compiz for such things as the desktop cube...?

abrinister 09-03-2012 08:36 AM

Only Compiz has those fancy 3D effects. The others are 2D, unfortunately.

None of them need a certain DE running. Some of them certainly need elements of the DE to run.

You need to set your default session to Compiz. Here are some Ubuntu docs for that.

Alex Brinister

TobiSGD 09-03-2012 08:57 AM

A DE is a composition of a WM and some other tools that are considered to be useful for everyday work, like file-managers, text editors, calculators and tools for setting up the DE.
For example, KDE comes with KWin as WM, Unity with Compiz, Gnome Shell with Mutter, XFCE with xfwm and LXDE uses Openbox.
Most (if not all) of those WMs can be run standalone.

This effort in assembling a DE is to give the user a complete and consistent feeling. Of course you can do that yourself, like may other Linux users do, and assemble your "own DE", just use the WM of your choice and add the programs/tools that you consider to be useful for your DE.

Most pure WMs are aimed at low resource usage and good performance, so most of those WMs don't come with fancy effects. Besides Compiz, xfwm can do basic compositing, KWin has some effects, I don't know about Mutter, but would consider that it has some effects, too. IIRC, Enlightenment can also do some nice things.

All other WMs don't have effects, for some WMs, like the tiling WMs, it wouldn't even make sense to implement effects.

Novatian 09-03-2012 10:21 AM

I have two main computers, a desktop with a dual core, and 3 GB ram, 500 GB HDD. I also have a 10 inch laptop, newer, with a dual core, 500 mg ram, and 180 gb HDD.

I liked Compiz on the desktop and on my old Pentium 4 laptop.

I am interested in configuring compiz in MATE that I have downloaded but have not tried. And that would be on my 10 inch which is not so hefty. I tried the in built desktop effects, I know now, they are not compiz, and want to try configuring it somehow.

But I am interested in Xfce and why it rates so well, just after KDE in 2011.

abrinister 09-03-2012 10:33 AM

Because Xfce is a mix between lightweight and pretty. It's basically a lighter version of GNOME with all the same cool feautures.

Alex Brinister

Novatian 09-03-2012 10:36 AM

What makes Xfce good looking? And why was gnome a bigger program?

abrinister 09-03-2012 10:41 AM

Xfce can be made to look pretty (like GNOME) while still being lightweight. This is partially achieved by the default font settings (no anti-aliasing and subpixel smoothing by default) AFAIK.

Alex Brinister

guyonearth 09-03-2012 11:16 AM

XFCE is almost the same "weight" now as classic Gnome, so it's really a matter of preference. Classic Gnome or MATE runs fine even on older computers. There's too much debate going on over "lightweight" desktops, in my opinion. How many truly "lightweight" computers are there anymore, really?

TobiSGD 09-03-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by guyonearth (Post 4771551)
There's too much debate going on over "lightweight" desktops, in my opinion. How many truly "lightweight" computers are there anymore, really?

If you shift your look away from the first world there are many computers that have to run with lightweight DEs. We in the richer countries often forget that you can't get cheap and powerful new computers all over the world.

But there are also those people that prefer function and performance over look. That is why not only the lightweight desktops exist, but also the whole bunch of window managers. I, for example, prefer the i3 window manager over everything else on any of my my machines, regardless if it is my netbook (10" display, single core Atom N270, 2GB RAM) or my workstation (27" display, AMD Phenom II X6, 16GB RAM)


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