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Old 02-10-2004, 11:53 AM   #1
plasticus
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audigy in mandrake 9.2


Okay, I've read on the board a lot of people having similar problems... no sound with audigy cards in mandrake 9.2. I doubt my problem is much different, but none of the solutions working for other people have worked for me.

There are two drivers available to me for my Audigy card, audigy and snd-emu10k1. With the audigy driver, it acts like it's muted. no errors or crashes. But when I open kmix to see if things are muted... mute is not selected, and the mixer seems to think it's mixing via8235. I still put all the volumes at maximum and get no sound. I have onboard sound as well, via8233, I think. Plugging my speakers into that also produces no sound.

With the snd-emu10k1 driver, Totem merely crashes. Also no sound produced if I plug my speakers into the onboard sound.

I'd rather not use the onboard sound... but if I can get sound at all, I'd be happy. Any ideas on where to look next?

Thanks in advance,
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:21 PM   #2
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Which Audigy card do you have?
They use the emu10k1 module. All of them are supported except the Audigy LS.
Where did you get the driver?
If you'll do as root # lspci it will tell you which one you need. You can get the
correct drivers from ALSA - actually the
ALSA setup works for my Audigy ES on this comp and the onboard VIA VT-8235
chipset on my wife and daughter's comp. To use ALSA get the three files on their
homepage labeled Driver, Library, and Utilities and then choose Supported soundcard
and then select your manufacturer and choose the correct chipset and directions.

Last edited by Bruce Hill; 02-10-2004 at 12:23 PM.
 
Old 02-10-2004, 05:25 PM   #3
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no luck yet.

I have an Audigy ES.

Mandrake is a little screwy. I tried "ispci", and it was apparently not a command.

ALSA appears to come preinstalled with Mandrake. I tried to download it from ALSA's website, anyway, to get the latest... only to find out I could not install it. during ./configure it said "please install your distribution with full kernel sources" etc etc. I looked in /usr/src/ and the only thing in there was a file named RPM. I couldn't find any RPM files for download on ALSA's website. Hitting a wall every which way I turn.

I'd hate to give up, but I've tried everything twice. thinking about going and getting a different distribution.
 
Old 02-10-2004, 07:12 PM   #4
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"ispci" is supposed to be lspci (in caps, that would be LSPCI, which won't work. don't do caps). You're right, ALSA does come installed. If you need to compile new modules, you'll need to install the kernel sources for your kernel. The RPM for that should be on your installation disk. Try alsactl (used as root). man alsactl will tell you a bit more (it a config tool for alsa - you may not need to install a new driver)
 
Old 02-10-2004, 08:03 PM   #5
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Re: no luck yet.

Quote:
Originally posted by plasticus
I have an Audigy ES.

Mandrake is a little screwy. I tried "ispci", and it was apparently not a command.

ALSA appears to come preinstalled with Mandrake. I tried to download it from ALSA's website, anyway, to get the latest... only to find out I could not install it. during ./configure it said "please install your distribution with full kernel sources" etc etc. I looked in /usr/src/ and the only thing in there was a file named RPM. I couldn't find any RPM files for download on ALSA's website. Hitting a wall every which way I turn.

I'd hate to give up, but I've tried everything twice. thinking about going and getting a different distribution.
Welcome to LQ!

Mandrake is different in areas from Slackware, because Mandrake is a
commercial distribution. As such, it is built to do some thinks with GUI
tools which Slack doesn't use, so I might not be able to help you :{

Vectordrake is correct about the command, and you have to run it as root.
In Linux you have 2 types of users - one is the normal user, and one is the
super user we refer to as root. The super user has read/write priviledges
to every directory. The normal user has read only priviledges to every
directory, and read/write only to /home/username (whatever username you
setup when you installed Mandy). When you see a $ sign it indicates a
normal user in the bash shell. When you see a # it indicates root in the
bash shell.

First, open a terminal and login as root by typing su at the $ and then
enter your root password. Next type lspci (that's an upper case L) ->
# lspci
which will list (ls) your pci devices (pci). Here is an example from our comp
with the onboard VIA VT-8235 sound chip:
Code:
root@peter:/home/anna# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE
(rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio
Controller (rev 50)   <---this is the sound chip
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]
(rev a2)
Open a terminal as a normal user and type lsmod (that's a lower case L) ->
$ lsmod
That will list (ls) your modules (mod) which are installed. Here is an example
of the modules for the onboard VIA VT-8235 sound chip:
Code:
anna@peter:~$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: P
snd-pcm-oss            37956   1 (autoclean)
snd-mixer-oss          13296   0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
nvidia               1628032  11 (autoclean)
snd-via82xx            13504   1
snd-pcm                60928   0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-via82xx]
snd-timer              14916   0 [snd-pcm]
snd-ac97-codec         47468   0 [snd-via82xx]
snd-page-alloc          6484   0 [snd-via82xx snd-pcm]
snd-mpu401-uart         3440   0 [snd-via82xx]
snd-rawmidi            14144   0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device          4336   0 [snd-rawmidi]
snd                    32644   0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-via82xx snd-pcm
snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore               3844   4 [snd]
If you have the correct modules for the sound chip you'd like to use, then you
should be able to use ALSA. First, in a terminal as a normal user type alsamixer ->
$ alsamixer
and unmute all the channels with the M key on your kbd. Then exit alsamixer and
login as root and type alsactrl store ->
# alsactrl store
and that will save your settings for when you reboot. If you need further assistance,
it might be good to post the output of lspci and lsmod and put [_code_] without
the underscores before your output and [_/code_] without the underscores after your
output so it'll be easier to read.

The lspci will list the Audigy card by name, and the correct module is snd-emu10k1.
Mandy probably has some special way to setup sound with a GUI but I've never
run Mandy so might not be able to help much further. You should search LQ for
some more information, especially the Mandrake forum

As for a different distribution, if you're quite familiar with your comp, you may want
to try Slackware. The learning curve is steep, but you'll actually learn how Linux
works, and not just how Mandrake Linux works. We have some great Slackers
at LQ, and they're always available to help.
 
  


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