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Old 09-05-2016, 09:30 AM   #61
Chuck34207
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Well, I am a newbe, but here is what I was able to figure out. I needed a copy program that would burn an ISO bootable file. After several trials, I found one that would do the job. It was a free download called InfraRecorder. Next problem was that I was unable to boot the CD in the CD player in my Dell OptiPlex 620. I ordered a usb DVD/CD external drive, and Gnome Ububtu 14.04 loaded up first try using the external drive. I completely over wrote XP. I just selected install now, and it took a while to complete the installation. I elected to download all of the updates available which took even longer. I read on some Dell users forum that the X86 system in my 620 was 32 bit, so I picked the OS from another post here "50 OS for XP". I finished up by installing all the updates. Finally, I installed an updated version of Firefox through amazon apps store because the older version included with Gnome 14.04 would not support youtube. Now, youtube plays just fine. All this went down just last night, so it is still very new to me. However, I thought I would share the experience for other newbes with old gear. I paid $27 dollars for the Dell OptiPlex 620 (Amazon) with around $25 dollars shipping. It came with 4GB Ram, 80 GB HD and XP Pro installed. (Pentium D 2.6 ghz CPU). I picked the Gnome Ubuntu because I read that it is LSI which means it will be supported for another year. I hope this might help and is on topic.
 
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:59 AM   #62
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Chuck34207

Thanks for the post, it wasn't really that hard was it? The reason your updates took so long is that 14.04 was released in April, 2014 so you had to download and install updates for two and one half years. Not sure why your firefox didn't work with youtube as the update should have installed a current, or at least a newer version of it. The repositories usually don't have the most recent release.
 
Old 09-05-2016, 02:30 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by danrevell View Post
And THAT is enough information to get ME into trouble indefinitely.
That information should only show the differences between Ubuntu with Wubi and Ubuntu without Wubi. The differences are the location of the Ubuntu files and that you use the Windows menu for booting into Ubuntu. That's it.

But you can change all differences. e.g.: As I wrote in a previous post you can also use GRUB 2 menu instead of Windows menu. You can also use real partitions instead of virtual partitions. So there are different default values but Ubuntu is Ubuntu.

I know it is not easy for beginners to move files from a virtual partition to a real partition or to replace/configure boot loaders. But on my experience, if it is really necessary, you find always helping hands. e.g.: I got my GRUB 2 script from a friend and he also got it from other users.

P.S. If you will need them in the future: There are also scripts for migrating an Ubuntu with Wubi configuration to an Ubuntu with standard configuration. see MigrateWubi.
 
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:23 PM   #64
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I hope this might help and is on topic.
IMHO it is on topic. It is a good example why Wubi is sometimes useful.
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I read on some Dell users forum that the X86 system in my 620 was 32 bit
Wubi detects your CPU and downloads automatically a 64 bit version if your CPU supports it. Otherwise, it downloads the 32 bit version.
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I needed a copy program that would burn an ISO bootable file.
Wubi needs no program which burns an ISO.
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I was unable to boot the CD in the CD player in my Dell OptiPlex 620.
...and no CD player.
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I completely over wrote XP.
I hope it was your intention to overwrite XP.
 
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Old 09-06-2016, 09:44 AM   #65
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Feeling froggy, think I'll tango with a Linux god, yancek...........
{QUOTE]
I'm not sure what's up with your quote input but it would be more readable if when you want to quote someone,
look at the row of icons just above the text entry box. The far right is blue with php on it. Go to the icon two
to the left and click it and then paste in your quote in the text entry window.
[end QUOTE]

You are undoubtedly correct, but fail to mention that this is all in the "Advanced" mode; by default, the text entry box that I see is "Quick Reply", from whence I could access the "Advanced" mode and immediately lose the post from which I am quoting, copying and pasting.
[QUOTE]
If you had Ubuntu on a separate partition, you didn't use wubi to install it. Wubi just doesn't work that way. You could
install wine on Ubuntu with a wubi install but there wouldn't be much point and I expect running anything that way would
be really slow.

We are talking about a wubi and an Ubuntu that I used over ten years ago. Take a deep breath and double-check your databanks; if you maintain that your expertise covers this off-the-cuff statement about two subsystems from that far back, I am going to believe it, because you are a god, I am a senile dinosaur, and you have been 100% so far. (But there is no shame in recanting a rash utterance.)

No, I haven't run the fdisk command, nor employed the scripts NessieH so kindly provided, nor perused all the links that others submitted, but I'm sure I will. I'm sure it's all good stuff, but right now I am still bemused by the fact that apparently Linux has remained a console-driven OS, at least for you gurus... I don't know if I'm ready to learn a new "language" (Linux console commands), having enough trouble with C++ and Python, though I appreciate the power with which that expertise imbues the user, and do not miss the ramifications of MS gradually removing that power from its minions. I'm actually going to go ahead and close this thread as "Solved", having been the undeserving recipient of much wisdom, knowledge and attention from you guys; the initial question is answered, it has been an education, and you were all so kind and patient to deal with my misguided ramblings and obsolete misperceptions. Thank you so much, see u on the forums.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 10:45 AM   #66
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And with that, friends and neighbors, I will mark this thread on " Are There Any Installers that Will Simply Fire Up Linux When You Click "Install" ? (like one old wubi I recall)" as "Solved", and find another way to aggravate LQ for awhile.
Before I go, I want to submit a synopsis of the situation, dedicated to The Magnificent Six and those of you who actually waded through 65 posts to get here.
The ANSWER is "yes", and "no".
Yes: Ubuntu 12.04.1, a free, full-blown version released August of 2012 was downloaded and installed, bing zip zam, on an old Pentium D3 with 1 Gig of RAM, by
the wubi at the bottom of the page at http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/. (The only wubi that was reported to actually work was the one suffixed "12.04.1".)
There are probably other versions with a wubi-style installer that actually works; one responder suggested doing a web-search for "wubiuefi" (up-to-date wubis for recent versions), but that's another quest.
No: Most versions of Linux, especially current,supported versions, apparently do not have a wubi.exe or one-click installer that actually works or can be located easily.

If you're feeling froggy, you can have (perhaps) any version you like. The process is:
download an ISO file for the version you want...................
"burn" the ISO file to disk or USB (gotta use another program for this, you can't just copy
the file onto the chosen medium -- try https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home for a CD,
or https://unetbootin.github.io/) for a bootable USB stick...........
reboot, from the CD or USB, and (allegedly) you get an "install" menu. Maybe. Sometimes.
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THE MAGNIFICENT SIX:
Pay strict attention if you are lucky enough to get a response from one of these Linux gods/goddesses
. While the majority of responders to my plaintive cries here at LQ were at least trying to help, the members comprising THIS group are absolutely awesome. In order of appearance on my thread, they are:
>>>...ardvark71..........michaelk..........NessieH..........John VV..........yancek...<<<
Honorable mention goes to:
rokytnji jpollard Ztooracat Chuck34207 and Habitual.
Wish I had had more time to interact with the HM's, but their contributions are appreciated anyway.
LQ is the primo lighthouse in the vast dark sea of Linuxlessness; kudos to the crew for the excellent job here! --- DAN

Last edited by danrevell; 09-13-2016 at 04:57 AM. Reason: temporal-accuracy adjustment
 
  


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