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The_paladin 08-26-2006 12:31 PM

App not showing in tray
 
Hello, I'm running Debian Etch with Gnome. I need to run a windows app (using wine). The app starts up fine and works perfectly, but it does not place a tray icon as it should. How do I make it do that?

David the H. 08-26-2006 06:19 PM

Some of the recent versions of wine have seem to have had that problem. Somewhere around version 0.9.13 they started managing the system tray with the (built-in) explorer process, and it apparently couldn't handle some applications at first. Recent versions seem to have no problem with the apps I use, however. So your best option is to either update to a recent version (0.9.17? or better) or else fall back to an older one that works.

(This is assuming that you're using one of the bad versions, of course. If you aren't, then I have no idea how to help you. :) )

proji 08-26-2006 07:34 PM

what is the windows app you are trying to run?

i found CrossoverOffice to be very good. ran photoshop, internet explorer, microsoft office 2003 all spot on. you could try using that. i've put the clicky to the website below for you mate, hope that helps :)
Crossover Office clicky

The_paladin 08-27-2006 09:59 AM

The app is Proxomitron. Yeah, I know that there's a native linux program that does the same as Proxomitron (proximodo, I think) but it's nigh impossible to get to compile under linux.
My Wine is indeed one of the versions mentioned, so i guess I'm going to wait for a new version to go into unstable, or switch to the stable version. Thanks for the info about wine, and thanks for the clicky; I'm going to check it out.

EDIT: INTERNET EXPLORER!?!? Who the hell in his right mind runs IE under Linux?

proji 08-27-2006 10:31 AM

lol, actually decided to install it for no other reason than "because i can" besides there's something quite amusing about running ie in linux. been using firefox for years now whether in linux or windows. i installed ms office because i use office software a lot and apologies to everyone for this, but i think ms office is about the best. i like open office, but given a choice i'll use ms office everytime ;)

cross over office is a v good application for windows apps at any rate.

David the H. 08-27-2006 01:24 PM

I thought as much. Proxomitron is one of the programs I use too, and for the same reason. I could never get Proximodo working right, and it seems to have gone belly-up as a project. What a shame. We really need a native Linux-compatible version of it. The only real native Linux substitute I know of, Privoxy, just doesn't seem to have the user-friendliness or flexibility of filter creation Prox has.

Prox should also run on older versions of wine, however. Try stepping back to 0.9.12 or lower and it should work. You can get the wine and winelib packages for previous versions here: http://snapshot.debian.net/package/wine (click on the "date" link to download the .deb file directly if you don't want to mess with your apt sources).

Finally, there are a few legitimate reasons to run IE on Linux. Some people need it to connect to Windows only networks, for example. Or they may need to install it because another app they want to use has it as a requirement. But yeah, for most people it's about as useful as a refrigerator in an igloo.

proji 08-27-2006 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David the H.
Finally, there are a few legitimate reasons to run IE on Linux. Some people need it to connect to Windows only networks, for example. Or they may need to install it because another app they want to use has it as a requirement. But yeah, for most people it's about as useful as a refrigerator in an igloo.

aye, well i installed IE 7 in windows, i figured that for those moments when IE just has to be used, i'd have it for that (not a fan of IE 6 at all). I gotta say IE 7 is actually really good. Not torn me away from firefox but it is still a vast improvement over version 6.

btw, for the record i'm not anti microsoft, but i'm not actively pro microsoft, i like some of their applications because they are very good such as ms office or visual studio. as for windows, i like xp cos it does what i need it to do and it does it capably (basically media, games, office stuff). there is much i like about linux, but the lack of robust gaming support is why i ultimately ended up not using my linux install... cos i couldn't be bothered rebooting to play games ;)

either way i still know a fair bit about linux from the amount i've used it, so i'm always willing to help, and besides, it's likely to see an installation on my pc again soon ;)

The_paladin 08-28-2006 01:10 PM

Thanks for the link to the .deb packages, although it's not all that difficult to add a source to the stable repository in apt's source list :)
But for now, I'll just download the package. Easier that way.
By the way, do anybody know an easy way to start a program using wine under gnome? Where should I place the command "wine (path to proxo)" to have it start up at startup?


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