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Old 01-31-2004, 06:27 PM   #1
Jay-eye
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Angry amazing shrinking text


Oh dear, day 1 of SuSE 9.0 has been a real tester.
Writing this post without resorting to swearing will be hard, too.

I was just having a look at Mozilla as an alternative to Konqueror and the thing froze. Huh! Had to finally press restart because I couldn't think what else to try.

When I relaunched SuSE the text has shrunk on the desktop and all windows to microscopic proportions. I'm sure I could put it back to normal but of course I can't read what the icons say and when I finally guessed right and got Yast up and logged in as root I still couldn't see what I was doing. The text is so small it's no more than a squiggle on the screen.

Any suggestions what I should do to get things back to how they were?
Any suggestions how to avoid it happening again.
And I thought Linux didn't crash?

Help me if you can please
Jay-eye
 
Old 01-31-2004, 07:07 PM   #2
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Well, I don't know how to help your font problem, but every operating system ever written has bugs. The perfect/non-crashable one probably does not exist. You said "the thing froze". The computer froze or program froze or what. Sometimes if you hit crl-alt-bkspc it will reset the gui with out reseting the whole computer. You can also hit ctrl-alt-F1 through F6 to get to a command line. You could type something like killall mozilla to end mozilla and then hit ctrl-alt-F7 (or F6) to get back to the gui.
 
Old 02-01-2004, 04:23 AM   #3
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Thanks, buddy.
I must confess I was frustrated and tired - not a good mental state for problem solving!

Thanks for your instructions on how to kill an app, I've got a lot to learn about Linux!

This a.m. I started up SuSE again (I'd tried several restarts last night to no avail) and all was well, fonts back to 'normal'. Always curious, I started up Mozilla which appeared ok. As I went to type a url at the top nothing wrote, Mozilla froze and wouldn't close using the top right X nor the close option from the menu bar icon. I was able to log out and all restarted ok again.

I think I'll just avoid Mozilla. It did occur to me that I have it twice on this machine. it's here under Linux because I loaded it from the SuSE cd and it's also there in the Win XP bit because i did download it to get the feel of it before I migrated away from IE6. Maybe that could cause a conflict?

Anyway, I'm sure I'll get used to Konqueror. Here's a question, though: Should I uninstall Mozilla from SuSE? Can you advise me what's the easy way of doing that?
Thanks
Jay-eye
 
Old 02-01-2004, 05:13 AM   #4
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NO, I don't think that you have to uninstall Mozilla. I use it myself on SuSE 9 and I have faced no problems thus far. Anyways, you can run Konqueror all you want and uninstalling Mozilla is not a neccessity.

Cheers.
 
Old 02-01-2004, 01:31 PM   #5
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Go to Mozilla's site and download the latest Mozila and install that. Or install Firebird. I personally like Mozilla Firebird better than regular mozilla. Could be the website that is loading as your homepage. I have to check my work email from a site that uses a lot of applets. The applets are written in an older ver of Java and it locks up on me sometimes. But I doubt that is your problem.
 
Old 02-01-2004, 01:43 PM   #6
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OK, I'll certainly try it and see.
Probably won't get back with results until tomorrow eve, though.
Thanks for your help.
Jay-eye
 
Old 02-01-2004, 11:59 PM   #7
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for me...firebird rocks!!! i found mozilla too bloaty and stuff...konqueror was better...but firebird is best...for me anyways...
 
Old 02-02-2004, 04:34 AM   #8
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If you use KDE (SuSE Default) Alt F2 will bring up a run prompt. Type:

xkill

and hit enter. When the cursor turns to a skull and crossbones, click the frozen application and it will be killed. Try (as root) typing:

sax2

from a command line to play with your configuration settings. I hope this helped.
 
Old 02-02-2004, 04:48 AM   #9
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Hey.. this may be stupid...
But maybe you installed your graphics card on that first boot.
and on re-booting, you are r unning the default (highest) screen resolution possiblie.

have a look at the screen resolution in /etc/X11/XF86Congif
 
Old 02-02-2004, 03:07 PM   #10
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Ok guys, thank you all for your suggestions.

I've uninstalled Mozilla for the time being but it still happens at random. If I reboot and reboot, eventually it comes ok, so it's an intermittent fault
I can't read config files or play with the settings while it's happening because I can't read what the text on screen says to know what I'm pointing the cursor at.

Why would the resolution settings change at random? I think I'll change them manually and see if I can recreate the effect, eh?

Here's another thing though, when it IS behaving itself:
In Win XP I have my monitor set at 1024x768. Things are a little small so I tweak the Control Panel/Display setting that allows you to change permanently from 96dpi to 120. That way I can read everything and it's nice and clear.
In SuSE 1024x768 gives me quite small text but I can change general overall text size via YaST. BUT things like the audio player are still VERY small and hard to read. Changing the display setting to 800x600 gives lovely big type and apps BUT the OK buttons can be off the bottom of the screen out of reach!

So tell me, is there a way to tweak this setting like in XP? Or have you lot all got better eyesight than me?
 
Old 02-02-2004, 05:13 PM   #11
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Hey, look what I found:

Mozilla and IPv6 Applies to: SUSE LINUX 9.0


Symptom: When entering an URL in Mozilla, Mozilla freezes.

Cause: By default, Mozilla uses IPv6 for name resolution. However, if you use SuSEfirewall2, IPv6 is locked for security reasons, so the request will be ignored.

Solution: If you do not need IPv6 support, deactivate it by changing the file /etc/modules.conf as follows.

Change:
alias net-pf-10 ipv6
#alias net-pf-10 off


to

#alias net-pf-10 ipv6
alias net-pf-10 off

Now if only I knew what IPv6 was and if I can safely deactivate it I could reinstall Mozilla or M Firebird and my joy will be complete!!!
 
Old 02-02-2004, 05:57 PM   #12
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Yes, you can definately deactivae IPv6 (Internet Protocol version 6) safely. We are currently using IPv4 and the average home user has zero need for IPv6.
 
Old 02-03-2004, 02:10 AM   #13
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Thanks, Buddy,
I've done it!
Now I just need to work out how to unzip & install Firebird (see my contribution to galant1991vr4's post "I need help installing software")
 
Old 02-03-2004, 09:36 AM   #14
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Just put the .tar.gz files where you want it unzipped. I put it in /opt. I think you have to change some permissions if you do that. Type tar xfzv mozil....tar.gz This will unzip the files into a directory it creates called MozillaFirebird. There is a file called MozillaFirebird (I think) that is the startup script for firebird.
 
Old 02-03-2004, 04:50 PM   #15
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Ok. Thanx for that.
I think I'm trying to run before I can walk, plus my computer muscles have been atrophying during the last 15+ years of using Windoze. But I'll try!
I'll certainly post how I get on but it'll not be tonight coz I've got a nasty virus. No, not the pc.....ME!
 
  


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