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Old 04-20-2004, 11:46 AM   #1
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Unhappy After Using urmpi Keyboard Doesn't work


I am using Mandrake 9.2 on a Dell Inspiron 5000e laptop. Previously I was using KDE, but I recently switched to WindowMaker. BUt when I was trying to figure out how get the updates for Mandrake without using KDE's GUI, my keyboard stopped responding and now I cannot get the keyboard to work at all. However, the mouse, CD ROM, etc. still work. What I entered in on the command line is this: "urpmi update --wget -a" as well as "urpmi.update --wget -a" and I think a couple other variations. Could this somehow have unmounted the keyboard? If so, how can I remount the keyboard? I guess I'll have to get an external keyboard to be able to log in to begin with...but after that what do I need to do? Also, what would you say went wrong here? As far as I understand urpmi it's not supposed to unmount the keyboard...

Many thanks!

Ian
 
Old 04-20-2004, 05:02 PM   #2
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If you allowed the 'ssh' or Webmin service to run and the laptop is on a network you can get access that way. Alternatively there'll be a option on boot for 'failsafe' or command-line only (I don't use Mandrake any more, so I don't remember...).

It sounds like something has upset your X-Windows setup - urpmi should log what packages it has added or upgraded, and you can run the Drak configuration tools at the command-line to reset the X configuration.
 
Old 04-21-2004, 06:54 PM   #3
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No Luck

I found an external keyboard and plugged that into the PS2 port and it works fine. I've also got an external mouse in the USB port which works fine. However, I still can't get the laptop's keyboard to work. I tried the 'failsafe" option at book and then ran drakconf, which only gave me the option to select a keyboard setup (i.e. US, UK, etc.). also ran drakconf under windowmaker but no luck either. I took a look at urpmi.log, which only displayed the following : Tue Apr 20 00:28:11 2004 urpmi called with update --wget -a . One other thing: if I try to boot up without the external keyboard plugged in, I can't use the laptop's keyboard to select "Linux" or "failsafe", etc. at the lilo interface. The keyboard seems pretty much dead...any further steps you can recommend?

-Ian
 
Old 04-22-2004, 02:08 PM   #4
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As a sanity check, I'd unplug everything and boot the machine with any boot disk or CD you're got, just to see if the keyboard can work at all when Mandrake isn't involved. The fact that it doesn't work in Lilo - before Linux is actually loaded - does suggest it's hardware-related.

If it works without Mandrake you could poke around in the config files, but if you're not yet familiar with the file structure of Linux it'll probably just eat time. If you've got /home as a separate partition you can always rerun the installation CD, telling it to _not_ wipe the /home partition, and get a clean system in less time than it takes to get fed up with the first option. Somebody on the Mandrake forum might have a better idea.
 
Old 04-23-2004, 09:34 PM   #5
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Resolution Without Solution

Somehow, this problem has resolved itself. I have been using the external keyboard for a the past day or so and today I tried the laptop's keyboard and it worked. This is very strange, since previously I had rebooted about 10 times and the laptop's keyboard positively did not work. The only thing I did that might have had an effect was running Mandrake's control center gui -- drakconf -- and doing an update that way. However, I don't believe that it installed any new updates as there were none available.

I am curious as to how the keyboard was re-recognized--it would also be useful to know in case this occurs again and I do not have an external keyboard handy. With the current setup (ext keyboard --> USB, ext mouse --> PS2) both the external and laptop's innate keyboards function concurrently, as do both the external mouse and touch-pad. I assume that there is a way to turn each of these on or off, but I have not been able to discover how this is done...any ideas?

Thanks!
 
Old 04-24-2004, 08:29 AM   #6
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It could a quirk of the drakconfig and hardware management systems. When I used Mandrake 9.1 I found that the distribution tools were not entirely stable, and subsequently dumped Mandrake partly for that reason.

The different elements of the Linux system aren't well integrated yet (there is an ongoing project to tackle this), so behind the scenes the distribution's particular hardware management actually handles separately kernel device configuration with devfs, terminal config. and X11's graphical interface. This is why I recommended that you avoided going down to config. file level and trying manual alterations - there aren't yet any central system hardware controls underneath the distribution-specific mechanisms you rely on.
 
  


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