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Old 04-19-2016, 05:52 AM   #1
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Unhappy Admin Tools Yast Software Management


I am using OpenSUSE Leap version 42.1 and using the software manager in the past interface. However, I am following an activity from a book named "Linux Operations and Administration". In this activity, "working with the last software management", I have to install, upgrade, and remove packages. The activity is asking me to find the "Admin Tools" and click on the "Installed" button. However, I cannot find the "admin tools" on the left side of the software management. Can someone please tell me where can I find the admin tools in this version of OpenSUSE and YaST.

Can someone please help me as I need to submit this activity tomorrow.

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Hend Ali
 
Old 04-19-2016, 06:07 AM   #2
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Since you're using openSUSE, the guides are worth reading first

https://doc.opensuse.org/

Which desktop environment are you using? (eg Gnome, KDE,...)

You mention software management, and in openSUSE this is done with YaST GUI or zypper CLI.

YaST

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Old 04-19-2016, 07:46 AM   #3
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Unhappy Admin Tools - YaST

Hi,

I am using the GNOME desktop environment. I am asked to click on the "admin tools" option in the YaST GUI, however, I can't seem to find this option. I think this is because the instructions that I am given is from an older version of the YaST GUI. Is there a substitute for "admin tools" in Leap 42.1?

Thank you,

Hend Ali
 
Old 04-19-2016, 07:57 AM   #4
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Hi,

I am using the GNOME desktop environment. I am asked to click on the "admin tools" option in the YaST GUI, however, I can't seem to find this option. I think this is because the instructions that I am given is from an older version of the YaST GUI. Is there a substitute for "admin tools" in Leap 42.1?

Thank you,

Hend Ali
I've used openSUSE for about 10 years and haven't come across that.
Perhaps if you tell us the whole instruction (eg what end result are you trying to achieve) we can give you an up to date alternative.
 
Old 04-19-2016, 08:05 AM   #5
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I've used openSUSE for about 10 years and haven't come across that.
Perhaps if you tell us the whole instruction (eg what end result are you trying to achieve) we can give you an up to date alternative.
The following link has the activity we are trying to complete. It is chapter 9, page 204 of the book > activity 9-4: Working with the YaST software manager. We are stuck from step 3. Can you help us, please?

https://books.google.ae/books?id=wVk...20left&f=false

Thanks

H
 
Old 04-19-2016, 08:19 AM   #6
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There did used to be some differences between Gnome's yast and KDE's and I use KDE. However, in KDE when you load Software Manager there's a tab at the top that says 'View'. If you can see that click on it and load 'Package Groups' and Admin Tools is on the left. Click on that and you'll see what you need. This is Kde but I'm sure Gnome will have something similar as it is basically the same Yast.
Sorry I'd forgotten that, it's so long since I looked.
 
Old 04-19-2016, 08:41 AM   #7
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There did used to be some differences between Gnome's yast and KDE's and I use KDE. However, in KDE when you load Software Manager there's a tab at the top that says 'View'. If you can see that click on it and load 'Package Groups' and Admin Tools is on the left. Click on that and you'll see what you need. This is Kde but I'm sure Gnome will have something similar as it is basically the same Yast.
Sorry I'd forgotten that, it's so long since I looked.
Thank you so much ! I found it !

However now i have another question, as I'm stuck

In the link of the book i sent above. In step 4, i can't seem to find the upgrades button. Can you tell where can i find it?

Sorry, but i am new to this software.
 
Old 04-19-2016, 01:13 PM   #8
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keep in mind that SUSE dose a lot of things SO DIFFERENTLY than other rpm based distros that most of the time
you CAN NOT use redhat, fedora,cent, guides !!!
you need to use the SUSE guides !!!

for the GUI

yast2 / install software
click on "package groups" tab

then on the left is "admin tools" GROUP - click on it

the tools in that group will be in the right window

Quote:
i can't seem to find the upgrades button.
there is not one

type in the terminal
Code:
su -
zypper up
BUT "Apper " should be running in the system tray and will notify you of updates with a pop up on login


also keep in mind that that book is 4 years old
( 5 years is one generation in software and hardware )

it was wrote BEFORE there was a opensuse 42.1 Leap
and before opensuse 13.2 and 13.1

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Old 04-19-2016, 01:31 PM   #9
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The following link has the activity we are trying to complete. It is chapter 9, page 204 of the book > activity 9-4: Working with the YaST software manager. We are stuck from step 3. Can you help us, please?

https://books.google.ae/books?id=wVk...20left&f=false

Thanks

H
You're working with a very old and out-of-date book. It is not written for OpenSUSE Leap 42.1, it's written for OpenSUSE 11.2 (as far as I can tell). That's like trying to use a Windows 7 guide to navigate Windows 8, it simply won't work. There will be NUMEROUS errors in that book's instructions. You have two choices:
1) Uninstall Leap and install the obsolete 11.2 instead so your book's instructions are correct.
2) Stop reading the instructions verbatim and start looking at the "big picture". Look at what it's asking you to do "big picture", then find where you need to go in the new version of the GUI to accomplish that task.

Asking us for the new location of every single button the book references is a gigantic waste of everyone's time.
 
  


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