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Old 12-12-2008, 03:58 PM   #1
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8.10 installation failure


Installation from live CD fails part way with an error message that the cd drive cannot be found. The PC I built myself using a PC Chips M810D 7.5 motherboard and and AMD Pro 2000+ CPU. I have tried several different CD drives but receive the same message. I have successfully installed Ubuntu 8.10 on another PC. Any help gratefully received.
 
Old 12-12-2008, 06:01 PM   #2
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A little more info

I've had similar problems before, but I need more information to be able to give advice in your case.

1. Have you tried the CD in another computer?
2. Have you tried re-burning the CD at a lower speed?
3. Does it always fail around the same part of the install? If so, what part?
4. I had a problem once where I had too many devices plugged into the power supply so the CD-ROM wasn't able to get sufficient power. What wattage is your PSU and how many devices do you have plugged into it?
5. Have you tried a different IDE cable?
 
Old 12-12-2008, 06:28 PM   #3
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Sounds to me its a media related issue... I would re-downlaod the image and checksum then validate the integrity of the image. If I remember correctly, there is a disk check feature in the menu on the install cd when you first boot and this should check the integrity of the disk before install. Just some suggestions...
 
Old 12-12-2008, 07:55 PM   #4
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Welcome to LQ!

You can rectify the image using torrents too.

If you are downloading again, then get the alternative install CD...it is better
 
Old 12-13-2008, 10:15 AM   #5
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Thanks for the welcome

Thanks for the replies. I do not think it is media related as I now have two discs - one from a ComputerActive magazine and they both fail in the same place. Checksums and integrity are ok and they load satisfactorily on other machines.

The answers for IMNOboist are as follows:
1. Yes works ok
2. Yes, did not think of that and have now done so - still same problem
3. Yes - after unpacking
4. 250w - motherboard, one HDD and CD drive are the only items connected. Should be enough but if all else fails I will try a 400w PSU
5. Yes.

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Old 12-13-2008, 10:29 AM   #6
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If I remember correctly, the minimum recommended PSU for the AMD XP series was 300w.

I would really try the 400w. Just swap out the cables and have the 400w PSU dangle outside the case for a quick check.

Given that the CD will work on another computer, the problem has to be hardware related. Anything from the IDE controller through the cable to the CD-ROM. There's a couple things about the CD-ROM you might consider; older CD-ROM aren't so great at reading burned CDs, especially CD-RWs. If you're using an older CD-ROM, try swapping it with the one that works from the other computer. The lens on the CD-ROM may also be dirty.

One other problem I had once was the jumper settings on the HDD were set for cable select or slave or something the OS didn't like. Since you have just the one hard drive, try setting the jumpers to identify the HDD as a single master, as opposed to master with a slave or cable select, or especially as slave. I once setup Kubuntu on 10 PCs and every single one of them had the hard drive set to cable select and the install would always crap out just before the graphical installer would appear.
 
Old 12-14-2008, 11:38 AM   #7
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Thank for the help. One step at a time I put in the 400w PSU, it makes no difference. Then tried a known working CD drive and a DVD drive. Then put in a new HDD, set to master only, from the spares box. Put in new EIDE cables. Then reset the CMOS using the board jumper. All to no avail.

The problem is manifested in all possible installation types. "Without making changes" cycles through the pink screen - no graphics content - to the test page for "starting system tools" etc., through to " checking state of battery" all come up "OK". The full installation hangs (12 hours plus before giving up) after the wallpaper graphics screen. Installation from inside windows gives the error that it cannot find the CD after unpacking the data. Same result on both live CDs one of which is a magazine product so should not be a CD reading problem.

Cannot believe it will be a CMOS battery problem as this would manifest itself on start-up and once underway would not, I think, be a problem. The only thing left is memory. It has 128Mb. Do you think this might be the problem? If so I will spend some money and try increasing to see if it helps. The Ubuntu site says that 64Mb should be enough but when I think about the board I think there should be at least 512Mb for a Duron 4 processor. It works on 128Mb with Me though so I might just have to stick with worn out out of date MS products. Perish the though. Hi Ho.
 
Old 12-14-2008, 12:04 PM   #8
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jacksonn,

I think you are right about not having enough ram.

Look here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...emRequirements

As was previously suggested the Alternative CD is probably the better installation route.

You could try Xubuntu but I would get 256, 384 or 512gb of ram in there first to satisfy 8.10.
 
Old 12-17-2008, 03:04 PM   #9
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Ubuntu now loaded and working fine. It all turns out to be too little memory. I did not realize that the amount of memory is more critical than the speed of the CPU. Thank you everyone for the help.
 
  


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